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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with Arsene's
          basic comment here and Michael's response.  Personally, it
          concerns me greatly from a competition point of view that
          developing countries are relying on platforms for Internet
          access, and not the DNS.  In numerous countries there are no
          local registrars, and meanwhile the market is consolidating. 
          However, that is not our primary focus at NCSG, although it is
          certainly a goal to have fair competition in the marketplace.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">It would be
          unrealistic to expect the registrars to go out looking for
          competition, so I think it falls to ICANN outreach and GDD to
          do that work.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks for this
          interesting thread!<br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-23 10:22, Michael J. Oghia
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Arsene,
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM,
            Arsène Tungali <span dir="ltr"><<a
                href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              However, our comments seem to ask that the whole
              Fellowship program<br>
              brings solely people who will be doing DNS policy though
              ICANN is not<br>
              only about policy. I believe there are so many other
              things happening<br>
              at ICANN including the security aspect of the DNS where
              there is a<br>
              need for people, etc. The GNSO is the only place for
              policy<br>
              development but other SO/AC do not solely do policy, there
              is a need<br>
              for fellows who will also be interested in that part of
              ICANN.<br>
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            <div>MO: I strongly agree with you here.</div>
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              I also believe ICANN Org needs to be present all over the
              world to<br>
              ensure everyone is aware of its work within the Internet
              ecosystem.<br>
              Hence the need to bring in fellows who might also help it
              meet that<br>
              objective. These people might not be interested at the end
              in doing<br>
              policy but they might be interested in being involved for
              example into<br>
              the DNS business or into advocacy to help their countries
              better<br>
              manage their ccTLD etc and this is all ICANN.<br>
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            <div>MO: I do think it's important for such individuals to
              be involved in the ICANN process, or at least, I can
              definitely see the added-value. At the same time, though,
              I don't think it's the role of the Fellowship program to
              provide that. To me, the program should foster ongoing
              involvement in some form or another, whether it's
              GNSO-level policy development, or engagement in another
              SO/AC. Simply sponsoring someone to introduce them to the
              program is not good enough (bear in mind, I'm not accusing
              you of insinuating such). I think that the global
              stakeholder engagement (GSE) teams along with the program
              coordinators / application reviewers can always take into
              account the circumstances of certain applicants,
              especially if they are involved in other areas of ICANN's
              work (such as DNS businesses or ccTLD operations). Note
              that there's<span
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"> also
                a much bigger push with the recommendations to have the
                GSE teams more engaged (at least in the comments I've
                seen).</span></div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>I support the idea that the program should be focused,
              however, and keep the scope as refined and narrow as
              possible (without being wholly exclusive).</div>
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            <div>Best,</div>
            <div>-Michael</div>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">2018-07-23
              11:49 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <<a
                href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>:<br>
              <span class="">> Dear all,<br>
                ><br>
                > Over the past few weeks a small team has been
                drafting an NCSG comment on<br>
                > the proposed changes to the ICANN Fellowship
                Program. We now have a first<br>
                > draft ready for your review:<br>
                ><br>
                > <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17qNRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=sharing"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17q<wbr>NRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br>
                ><br>
                > We are open to constructive edits that address the
                [proposal put forward by<br>
                > ICANN org in this<br>
              </span>> document](<a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-proposal-new-fellowship-11jun18-en.pdf"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.<wbr>org/en/system/files/files/<wbr>draft-proposal-new-fellowship-<wbr>11jun18-en.pdf</a>).<br>
              <span class="">> Please propose edits directly into our
                Google Doc (preferred method), or on<br>
                > this mailing list, by COB in your timezone on
                Wednesday 25 July.<br>
                ><br>
                > On Thursday the statement, and any input received,
                will be shared with the<br>
                > NCSG Policy Committee for its review and potential
                endorsement. The deadline<br>
                > for submission of comments on this issue is Friday
                27 July.<br>
                ><br>
                > Thanks for your time.<br>
                ><br>
                > Best wishes,<br>
                > Ayden Férdeline<br>
                <br>
                <br>
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