<div><div><div>Hi Juan,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you very much for your comments! Any comment is very welcome, especially a constructive one like this one.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We do agree that the data labeled “restricted” should not be disclosed, however, we thought that it would be best that ICANN disclose to the public the reason why they are restricted. We understand why it’s best that they be kept restricted, however it is a responsible act from ICANN to include a small description explaining the restriction.</div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Does that answer your point?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elsa</div><div dir="auto">—</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:32 PM Juan Alejo Peirano <<a href="mailto:juan.alejo.peirano@gmail.com" target="_blank">juan.alejo.peirano@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Ayden, <div><br></div><div>Thank you for your response! Being this a large group of people with diverse interests, drafting a document with the mentioned time-constrains is quite a challenge. I don't want my comments to be too thorough on the technical side - some times it doesn't add anything to the substance and it's just a pain in the a**. That's why I wanted to make sure that I'm in line with the dynamics of the group.</div><div><br></div><div>+1 to the following:<br></div><div>- <span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Hi Elsa et al, thanks for starting this effort and drafting this comment</span></div><div><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div>All the best!</div><div><br></div><div>Juan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>El jue., 19 jul. 2018 a las 20:18, Ayden Férdeline (<<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Juan, thanks for flagging this and welcome to the NCSG! Your explanation sounds very sensible. (And it is perfectly acceptable to make comments about the substance of our statements that are in the process of being drafted on this mailing list.)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi Elsa et al, thanks for starting this effort and drafting this comment. I have made a few suggested edits to the document now. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes, Ayden <br></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 19 July 2018 8:56 PM, Juan Alejo Peirano <<a href="mailto:juan.alejo.peirano@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">juan.alejo.peirano@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-697220943054554775m_4731291885419157902m_-4413718183825967621protonmail_quote"><div><div>Hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>First of all, thank you for having me in this great group. Hope that my comments would be of value, to address the interests of the group in the best way possible. <br></div><div><br></div><div>A quick question first, do we need to comment on the shared document or by email? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Giving that this is my first comment, I would prefer to do it by email, sorry for that :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>My comment is regarding the point 3 of the doc section "Errors and omissions". <br></div><div>The restricted files appear to be related with configuration files (particularly TLDs zone files and root zone servers files) and for security reason, it is sensible for them not to be available as Open Data. Configurations zone files could be use for cyberattacks, especially if the attacker knows how the DNS zone is defined on the server.<br></div><div>I'm totally in favor of asking for clarification why the term restricted is used on the spreadsheet, but I would not push for access of such files, it would be a risk for the integrity of the DNS zones. Also, I would not classify that as an "error" on the document, from a technical perspective the classification "restricted" makes sense.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Please let me know if I'm off topic at any point of this comment. Being this my first, I could be totally wrong and out of scope from the interests of the group.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Juan Alejo Peirano<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>El jue., 19 jul. 2018 a las 18:58, Elsa S (<<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Hi all,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">It is our pleasure to share with you the draft public comment on the Open Data Initiative (ODI) which Yazid, Antonella, Shahul, Akinremi and myself worked on over the past week, with the help of Rafik!<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Comments on the <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/odi-datasets-metadata-2018-06-11-en" target="_blank">ODI Datasets and Metadata</a> opened in June this year, where ICANN asked the community for advice as to which datasets in their shared inventory should be published first. The publishing chronology would be based on the comments ICANN receives, and the aim of sharing the data according to what the <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-org-s-open-data-strategy" target="_blank">CEO's Blog post</a> mentioned, would be to increase evidence-based policy development.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The dataset inventory includes 232 elements on all sorts of topics, SGs and Cs. We went through them as carefully as we could on <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-8L98u7lz73g6a04Hhp673CqEj_4e1ltYd0f43Qs2wQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">this spreadsheet</a> which you could also take a look at, and our conclusions were drafted in <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">this google doc</a>. At this point, we need your input keeping in mind NCSG's priorities. We thank everyone who contributed, and any member who will contribute to make this comment more fit to submit. Note that the closing date is in a week's time, so the sooner the contributions, the better for us all! :)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><u>Our suggestion for most efficiency would be for you to read the google doc first, check the spreadsheet, then add any comments or suggestions to the comment accordingly.</u><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><b></b><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Please do let us know if there is anything that needs further elaboration, and happy reading!<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Elsa<br></div></div><div>-- <br></div><div class="m_-697220943054554775m_4731291885419157902m_-4413718183825967621m_-1610332073882374942gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div><div><div><div><div>--<br></div><div><br></div><div>Elsa Saade<br></div><div>Consultant<br></div></div></div><div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights<br></div><div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div class="m_-697220943054554775m_4731291885419157902m_-4413718183825967621gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Juan Alejo Peirano<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_-697220943054554775m_4731291885419157902gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Juan Alejo Peirano</div></div>
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</div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">--<br><br>Elsa Saade<br>Consultant</div></div><div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights</div><div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div></div></div></div></div>