<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Raoul,<div><br><div>Can you elaborate more on circumstances that led to an elected NCUC EC member to be quicked out of the list? I think this is outrageous if it happens to be true.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Arsene<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div>-----------------</div><div>Arsène Tungali,</div><div><a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali">about.me/ArseneTungali</a></div><div>+243 993810967</div><div>GPG: 523644A0</div><div>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)</div><div><br>On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@GMAIL.COM">plommer@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>It is outrageous that the NCUC Chair would seek to put pressure on you to approve applications for membership who do not fulfil our membership criteria. We are here to defend non-commercial uses and users of the Domain Name System, and must be careful not to allow those who do not support a free and open Internet to use our platform in order to push different priorities.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ayden, I think it's pretty far from outrageous, that a constituency chair is asking about the status of membership applications that were filled months ago.
<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I understand the frustration even more when it's not so much NCSG that does the outreach, but its constituencies. Especially Renata has brought more members to the NCSG than anyone else, as far as I know and having too many member applications is definitely a positive problem. But I'm not so concerned about the approval of new members as treating our current ones - the NCSG chair kicking out a selected member from the NCUC EC mailing list without consulting the EC chair (or anyone else in EC) is a lot worse in my eyes and shows open disregard for good protocol and due process.</span><br><br>But yeah, back to member candidates, usually the delay doesn't come from denying GAC members or IGOs who might actually have very different viewpoints for internet, but from trying to get an answer from authentic applicants on making noncommercial DNS policy.<br><br>More often than not with unclear motives, we actually have to ask how they would be contributing in making DNS policy. On top of that, we've had serious problems with a broken registry for new members as well as the scheduling meetings and coordinating the ~unanimous approval of members between all five members of the EC in very different time zones. So it's not all that easy even when the registry is working, which it still isn't.</div><div><br></div><div>The NCSG EC members have decided to ask for some clarifications on a good few member applications but by no means should we let all the approved candidates wait for those requests to be filled. This could be improved quite easily, at least once the registry is working again.</div><div><br></div><div>-Raoul</div></div><br></div></div>
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