<div><div dir="auto">Good morning from the city of Lagos,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dear Farzaneh</div><div dir="auto">It's not my intention to ask for more if a level playing ground to enable both committees have relative environment to co-exist as subjects of NCSG is established, if you do not create that space, especially with Finance. I do not understand why we expect to have improvement in a precess especially finance/funding without providing the enabling environment and probably equal opportunities.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes, there is need for more activities on the side of Finance Committee which the current team is trying to address as I stated before, which must be done over time, but not when we are dealing with policies that guides an Organisation like NCSG, which often outlives most of us in NCSG. Our policies especially at NCSG must live beyond us more so when it's for internal best practices and process with a open mind.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we want the Finance Committee to work, the excuses being adduced of mentioning specifically in a policy document a precise committee out of the only two statutories does not hold. And I think that Is what the current policy depicts. We must all help build the finance committee we want, not wanting magics.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have outlined most of the responsibilities earlier which will soon be restated in the operational procedures, we must see beyond my bringing this matter of FC to the house to the steps in building and strengthening the Finance Committee we want.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There seems to be little knowledge of what NCSG-Finance Committee <b>is</b> and <b>should be</b>, hence we want to correct this by engaging our community and stakeholders more, which cannot be done under relegation of any color. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We cannot have two children and Favour one and expect both to be excitedly doing well or better still send a child to the market with salt and then send rain after him.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I still appreciated those who made comments on this, it helped in bringing more light to the table, and until the table is bright enough for us all to see what is on the other side, the light is not visible enough and that is when transparency and accountability can be said to have improved in NCSG as a family.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">Remmy Nweke</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:33 AM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I removed the paragraph about policy committee but I cannot change this paragraph</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span id="m_-6105629054830812555gmail-docs-internal-guid-d9bb4ab1-7740-e0bc-0808-1b04ebfd6678"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:17pt;margin-bottom:17pt;text-align:justify;display:inline"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">c.If the applicant is to be an alternate to a GNSO Councillor, he or she should have an understanding of how the Council works and have observed their meetings beforehand. They must provide a letter of recommendation from either the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee or a serving member of the Council in his or her second term. </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:17pt;margin-bottom:17pt;text-align:justify;display:inline"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p></li></ol></span></div></li></ol></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You suggested that there should be a letter from the Finance Committee. I cannot accept that change. Remember we are talking about "alternate" to council member. Their task if they get the travel slot is to go to the meeting and go to council and policy meeting, has nothing to do with finance. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think the confusion comes from the fact the travel slots that we are talking in this travel policy is the ICANN support of NCSG EC (3 slots) and NCSG Council member slots (6 slots). We will need a more elaborate travel policy later on for other funding allocation. but as it stands this will do. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I made as many changes as I could and removed the paragraph about policy committee . but some changes I could not make as I said above. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is the doc. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#</a></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-6105629054830812555gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:29 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Farzaneh<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Apologies for the long email note.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Like I said earlier, the essence is being deminished when you start laying emphasis on travel slot for a particular committee and leaving the other who is supposed to be conducting it's interface with ICANN.org and the community at large.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not because I got involved in Finance Committee, I have been to several ICANN meetings in past 10 years largely not on ICANN.org, outside that there is no part of the world I have not travelled to, so travel slot should not be my headache, but for the mandate of the committee in the charter, which I browse through hitherto until this appointment, there is need to have stakeholder sessions, interface with ICANN.org, prospect funders and get feedback on fund already spent, new modalities among others and how best to evolve.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">it's important to ensure that the only two statutory committees of NCSG (FC and PC) have equal footing when it comes to providing enabling environment except if one decides to be mischievous, yet we expect equal results.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We all must work as a larger team without deminishing any to make progress in NCSG especially on accountability and transparency.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Personally I do not expect less from you as a leader of substance as far as NCSG is for now and anyone taking over thereafter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I still stand on my demands madam chair.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks</div><div dir="auto">Remmy Nweke</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jul 2018 10:36 pm, "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-6105629054830812555m_-3234545844694861010quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto">Remmy, </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For three years being in leadership positions at ICANN, out of 9 ICANN meetings I attended only 3. I was an executive committee member an ncuc chair and ncsg chair. I was effective and carried out my tasks well and did more than many of those who actually attended meetings. Even more than some of the previous chairs. I raised overall up to 88000 usd for ncuc and ncsg from Icann for policy writing and capacity building. I managed an outreach of 7000 usd which Icann paid as a crop event again from behind my desk at 3 am in the morning sometimes. My decision as ncsg chair not to seek re election is of course because of not being able to travel but that is totally different. When you are at the helm of a group unfortunately because of this "leadership" culture of ICANN and hierarchy NCSG will sometimes be without representative which is not in its interest. But when you are with a committee in more of an executive function, You don't have to attend ICANN meetings to do your job. If you get the opportunity to go then great. But you don't have to. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think all ncsg members should know that travel slots don't bring equality in participation. Participation brings participation and inclusiveness. Hard work brings results. The result of participation can be travel slots. It should not be vice versa. </div><div class="m_-6105629054830812555m_-3234545844694861010elided-text"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:09 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);background:white">Thanks
for the response Farzaneh,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I think it would
amount to not wanting to make Finance Committee improve on its working
processes and mandate to sound it off as mere “protecting the interest of
members or wanting to score travel slot” which I think negates the purpose of
the Finance Committee or probably why it has been in comatose lately. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">For your information,
the role and mandate of Finance Committee as contained in the NCSG Charter Section
2.6 is very clear and is not limited to the following:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Develop and deploy a fund raising plan for the NCSG;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Work with the ICANN’s staff to determine levels of support available to
the NCSG;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its Constituencies
receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
accounting will include the following:<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must be held
in a separate NCSG account.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Proper controls must be implemented.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regarding Expenditures, FC is to among others see that:<span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations within
the ICANN structure.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For now, the present crop of FC are not people who are merely seeking
exposure, but want to contribute its quota, and thus find it unhealthy that
Finance Committee is being relegated.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Looking at most of the responsibilities of the Finance Committee, its
stakeholders<span> </span>and possible time for most
of its functions and oversights must be dealt with within the ICANN stakeholdes
meeting for proper engagement.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Finally, its in the best interest of <b>NCSG-EC</b> that the Finance Committee
work and works well, so as to pave way for more accountability and transparency
in our process and overtly more funding for our stakeholders.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We cannot be demanding accountability and transparency from other
stakeholders and tactically frustrate the efforts of Finance Committee thereby
making the committee look as irredeemables.<span></span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Remmy</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p>
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