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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;line-height:16.8667px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:21.4667px">Thanks @Farzaneh for accepting some of the points.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;line-height:16.8667px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:21.4667px">I know that, invariably the fact that NCSG-FC is operating under NCSG umbrella is still not clear to many of us in NCSG.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;line-height:16.8667px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:21.4667px">I still did not understand why two statutory committees have one taken prominent over another when it comes to operational policy guidelines. That is my point and its not correct. It’s a policy document for use by NCSG internal operations of NCSG, therefore, mere mention of one without the other negates the purpose.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;line-height:16.8667px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:21.4667px">May be we can reconsider use of NCSG committees, rather than having a particular committee reflect in a working/guiding document, so as to make open for all committees statutorily created under NCSG to operate evenly, which I think should equally reflect in this document to take care of the inferences (NCSG Committees including NCSG-FC and NCSG-PC); notwithstanding if one is favoured in terms of EC decision should be a different ball game.<span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;line-height:16.8667px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:21.4667px">A lot of our community members have been made to believe its all about travel slots for FC versus PC, Its NOT and I wish to convey this.</span></p>
Thank you<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">____<div>REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, </div><div>Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, <br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)">DigitalSENSE Africa Media</span> <span>[<i>Multiple-award winning medium</i>]<br></span>(<a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews" target="_blank">DigitalSENSE Business News</a>; <a href="http://www.itrealms.com.ng" target="_blank">ITREALMS</a>, <a href="http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng" target="_blank">NaijaAgroNet</a>)</div><div>Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos<br>M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms" target="_blank">@ITRealms<br></a><div>Author: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E" target="_blank">A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria</a></div><div><br></div><div><b><font color="#ff0000">South-South <a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng" target="_blank">Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable</a></font></b> </div><div>(Uyo, Akwa-Ibom State). 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Violators may face court persecution.<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:33 AM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I removed the paragraph about policy committee but I cannot change this paragraph</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span id="m_7106514629971045074gmail-docs-internal-guid-d9bb4ab1-7740-e0bc-0808-1b04ebfd6678"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:17pt;margin-bottom:17pt;text-align:justify;display:inline"><span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">c.If the applicant is to be an alternate to a GNSO Councillor, he or she should have an understanding of how the Council works and have observed their meetings beforehand. They must provide a letter of recommendation from either the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee or a serving member of the Council in his or her second term. </span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:17pt;margin-bottom:17pt;text-align:justify;display:inline"><span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p></li></ol></span></div></li></ol></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You suggested that there should be a letter from the Finance Committee. I cannot accept that change. Remember we are talking about "alternate" to council member. Their task if they get the travel slot is to go to the meeting and go to council and policy meeting, has nothing to do with finance. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think the confusion comes from the fact the travel slots that we are talking in this travel policy is the ICANN support of NCSG EC (3 slots) and NCSG Council member slots (6 slots). We will need a more elaborate travel policy later on for other funding allocation. but as it stands this will do. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I made as many changes as I could and removed the paragraph about policy committee . but some changes I could not make as I said above. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is the doc. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#</a></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_7106514629971045074gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:29 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Farzaneh<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Apologies for the long email note.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Like I said earlier, the essence is being deminished when you start laying emphasis on travel slot for a particular committee and leaving the other who is supposed to be conducting it's interface with ICANN.org and the community at large.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not because I got involved in Finance Committee, I have been to several ICANN meetings in past 10 years largely not on ICANN.org, outside that there is no part of the world I have not travelled to, so travel slot should not be my headache, but for the mandate of the committee in the charter, which I browse through hitherto until this appointment, there is need to have stakeholder sessions, interface with ICANN.org, prospect funders and get feedback on fund already spent, new modalities among others and how best to evolve.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">it's important to ensure that the only two statutory committees of NCSG (FC and PC) have equal footing when it comes to providing enabling environment except if one decides to be mischievous, yet we expect equal results.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We all must work as a larger team without deminishing any to make progress in NCSG especially on accountability and transparency.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Personally I do not expect less from you as a leader of substance as far as NCSG is for now and anyone taking over thereafter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I still stand on my demands madam chair.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks</div><div dir="auto">Remmy Nweke</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jul 2018 10:36 pm, "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_7106514629971045074m_-3234545844694861010quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto">Remmy, </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For three years being in leadership positions at ICANN, out of 9 ICANN meetings I attended only 3. I was an executive committee member an ncuc chair and ncsg chair. I was effective and carried out my tasks well and did more than many of those who actually attended meetings. Even more than some of the previous chairs. I raised overall up to 88000 usd for ncuc and ncsg from Icann for policy writing and capacity building. I managed an outreach of 7000 usd which Icann paid as a crop event again from behind my desk at 3 am in the morning sometimes. My decision as ncsg chair not to seek re election is of course because of not being able to travel but that is totally different. When you are at the helm of a group unfortunately because of this "leadership" culture of ICANN and hierarchy NCSG will sometimes be without representative which is not in its interest. But when you are with a committee in more of an executive function, You don't have to attend ICANN meetings to do your job. If you get the opportunity to go then great. But you don't have to. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think all ncsg members should know that travel slots don't bring equality in participation. Participation brings participation and inclusiveness. Hard work brings results. The result of participation can be travel slots. It should not be vice versa. </div><div class="m_7106514629971045074m_-3234545844694861010elided-text"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:09 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);background:white">Thanks
for the response Farzaneh,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I think it would
amount to not wanting to make Finance Committee improve on its working
processes and mandate to sound it off as mere “protecting the interest of
members or wanting to score travel slot” which I think negates the purpose of
the Finance Committee or probably why it has been in comatose lately. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">For your information,
the role and mandate of Finance Committee as contained in the NCSG Charter Section
2.6 is very clear and is not limited to the following:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Develop and deploy a fund raising plan for the NCSG;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Work with the ICANN’s staff to determine levels of support available to
the NCSG;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its Constituencies
receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
accounting will include the following:<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must be held
in a separate NCSG account.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Proper controls must be implemented.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regarding Expenditures, FC is to among others see that:<span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations within
the ICANN structure.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For now, the present crop of FC are not people who are merely seeking
exposure, but want to contribute its quota, and thus find it unhealthy that
Finance Committee is being relegated.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Looking at most of the responsibilities of the Finance Committee, its
stakeholders<span> </span>and possible time for most
of its functions and oversights must be dealt with within the ICANN stakeholdes
meeting for proper engagement.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Finally, its in the best interest of <b>NCSG-EC</b> that the Finance Committee
work and works well, so as to pave way for more accountability and transparency
in our process and overtly more funding for our stakeholders.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We cannot be demanding accountability and transparency from other
stakeholders and tactically frustrate the efforts of Finance Committee thereby
making the committee look as irredeemables.<span></span></p></div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Remmy</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p>
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