<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Travel is usually only indirectly sourced by region (for example - travel support is given to councillors, and councillors are selected to ensure regional diversity). Where travel is indirectly sourced by region, I do not think we should keep regional constraints. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But its not really relevant to this document, which deals with membership of NCSG not travel. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Jun 2018, at 5:01 pm, KASWESHA <<a href="mailto:kaswesha@GMAIL.COM" class="">kaswesha@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><img class="mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display:flex" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/eea68acbb2b10cb318e27b7af15635db77884f72.png?u=3034503" height="0" width="0"><div class="">Hello Farzi. The document sounds good but may I suggest that we add in the document " where travel support is issued according to region representation, and for any reasons the beneficially is not able to travel, we source alternate from that particular region unless there are no eligible candidate" With light touch though.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards;<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">James Njoroge Gitau <br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="mt-signature">
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<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 7:09 AM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default">Dear All, </div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">This document about the handling changes of NCSG membership was shared by Robin Gross (an NCSG EC member) last year in September for your consideration. It seems like no one followed up afterwards, so it's not approved yet. There were some comments on the previous thread which I am forwarding here. It does not look like there was a serious challenge or concern. I will leave the document in a Google Doc, which you can use to comment on and suggest changes. On 8th July, we will finalize the document and send it to NCSG EC for approval. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fg6eTBDlzbC1qS8guEJPv0mYfoivOBNlT7L6QO-fv4c/edit?usp=sharing" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">https://docs.google.com/<wbr class="">document/d/<wbr class="">1fg6eTBDlzbC1qS8guEJPv0mYfoivO<wbr class="">BNlT7L6QO-fv4c/edit?usp=<wbr class="">sharing</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">Best</div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Arsène Tungali</b> <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>></span><br class="">Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 5:42 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: operating procedures for membership changes<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><span class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-m_-4242000376107894323WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">On these judgment calls, I think the only practical solution is to rely on the Executive Committee to apply guidelines wisely and with the interests of NCUC at
heart, rather than trying to formulate ever more detailed rules.</span></p></div></blockquote></span>+1 on this, we may come up with pages!<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">And i do personally encourage our members to continue raising/sharing questions on this thread; and to the EC to take note of them. These examples of luckily situations can help them in the future when deliberating on new membership requests.</div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-"><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-m_-4242000376107894323WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">As an aside, we did have some concern in the early days about dominance of the constituency by a single global organization with lots of chapters, and ISOC was
on our minds. We wrote parts of the bylaws that included a trigger that would go off if there was an organized effort by an organization like ISOC to “take over” or dominate the constituency, but these threats have never materialized. </span></p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Indeed this is an important and serious point to note. Can you please share more on this, Dr Muller? Is there something particular that has been decided?</div><div class=""><div class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="m_-6276265492587586465gmail-m_-4242000376107894323WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Dr. Milton L. Mueller<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Professor, School of Public Policy<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Georgia Institute of Technology<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-6276265492587586465_m_-4242000376107894323__MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></a></p>
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: operating procedures for membership changes<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">As an organizational member rep (ISOC-NY) I take an interest in the following:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">a) The organization is incorporated as a noncommercial entity (in countries that have a provision in their commercial code) or, if unincorporated, or if operating in a country without provisions for noncommercial incorporation, that operates
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">and c) Is engaged in online activities that are primarily noncommercial,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">No problem with any of that But..<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">organized as a membership-based organization under the applicable law as used in NCSG’s Charter) the organization should not only be noncommerical itself, but should have a primarily noncommercial focus, and the membership should also be
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">As an Internet Society Chapter we do not discriminate on the basis of, or even know the majority of, our members' commercial activity. However, all NCSG votes are taken by our (elected) board, who might well qualify, but are elected by
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I haven't looked it up. Could you clarify '<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">organized as a membership-based organization under the applicable law as used in NCSG’s Charter'?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank" class="">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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Please find the attached procedures for handling changes in one's NCSG membership status, which is intended to formalize our EC’s operation on such matters. If there are no significant concerns with these procedures, they should go forward as an NCSG operating
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