<div dir="ltr"><div>Milton:</div><div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 June 2018 at 19:16, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Guiseppe:</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's Giuseppe, or just Pino, thank you.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="m_3429980398523238768WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.4pt">The only problem I see here is about culture. USA vs EU cultural gap. To any EU person, Whois has always been borderline illegal, but we didn't have any law like the GDPR yet. Therefore, we had to keep it to ourselves.
Meanwhile, Americans made a lot of money by monetising the Right to Privacy offering Whois protection as a domain add-on. It's just as shameful as monetising public water.<span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This “cultural” explanation is incorrect. American privacy advocates and public interest groups (such as IGP or EPIC) were leading the opposition to Whois, while
European law enforcement agencies (LEAs) and GAC members were (and to some extent still are) defending it. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>That's your view, dragging groups in this, while I'm referring to individuals. There is always a substantial difference between the general public and advocacy groups.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="m_3429980398523238768WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The real explanation relies on the economic interests of particular users of the data. Trademark and brand protection agencies around the world (not just America)
found open Whois very convenient, as did LEAs. Security firms were getting free access to and monetizing the data.
</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I did mention the monetisation aspect indeed, that doesn't discount a basic difference in the culture.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="m_3429980398523238768WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">A “cultural” explanation of this divide tends to be divisive as it’s based on identity politics rather than reason or fact.
</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">There is no such a thing as reason or fact disconnected from political views when it comes to cultural differences. Trying to deny cultural differences is the beginning of the end of any form of evolutive cooperation among people. Only by dealing with who we are we can overcome what is divisive to learn cooperation. This is one of the problems in USA approach to political science: avoiding any divisive subject trying to force political correctness into everything. This as well is due to strong cultural differences: Mediterranean civilizations thrive in debate and love strong rethorics applied to arguing cases without hiding differences. Avoiding to talk about differences is not helpful, actually it will cause even wider divides on the long run because each side will be in denioal until can no longer keep it silent. This is a major problem in how public policies are analysed drafted, at least this is my opinion.</span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bests,</span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Pino</span></div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="line-height:0;vertical-align:bottom;padding-right:10px;padding-top:20px;padding-bottom:20px" width="107" valign="bottom" align="left"></td><td style="line-height:1.1;vertical-align:bottom;padding-top:20px;padding-bottom:20px" valign="bottom" align="left">
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