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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Please find attendance and recording of the Monthly NCSG Policy Call on 22 May 2018 at 12:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Attendance: Farell Folly, Bruna Martins Santos, Olga Kyryliuk, Flavio Andre Garces Heredia, Konan Montresor, Rafik Dammak, Caleb Ogundele, Ayden Ferdeline, Tatiana Tropina, Martin Silva, Poncelet Ileleji, Shah
Rahman, Vrikson Acosta, Farzaneh Badii, G Z Kabir, Stephanie Perrin, Ziyam Abdeen, Thato Mfikwe, Olevie Kouami, Avri Doria, Joan Katambi, Peter Taiwo Akinremi | Staff: Adam Peake, Maryam Bakoshi</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">MP3</span></b><b><span style="color:#002060">:</span></b><span style="color:#002060">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Transcript</span></b><span style="color:#002060"> will be posted once received to:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Bh7xAg">https://community.icann.org/x/Bh7xAg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Chat:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 12:34:54 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks Julie1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 12:35:00 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> oups :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 12:36:34 PM from Maryam Bakoshi to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dear All, welcome to the Monthly NCSG Policy Call on Tuesday 22 May 2018 at 1200 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:00:49 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Good morning, everyone!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:02:03 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:02:33 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> hello Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:02:54 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Hi all <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:03:21 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Hi all, i am Flavio from Colombia :D
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:03:27 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> hi Flavio!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:03:39 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:03:42 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> :D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:13:27 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> test, sorry to be late<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:13:36 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> test is working <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:14:39 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I think council should work on styling their agenda more. like beautify it. and make it look better ...
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:15:11 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> the agenda looks better in Adobe Connect... it's actually legible!! :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:16:15 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> if you struggle to read it, like me, the pdf agenda is here https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/agenda-council-24may18-en.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:16:16 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> jajajaja<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:16:46 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> struglle? I almost went blind. also probably we need to aadd topic related pictures
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:16:52 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks for the link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:16:53 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks Ayden, and yes Farzi, is unnecesary criptic
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:17:26 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> is there any comment from Gannon, our rep?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:04 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Hi all, cant hear anything, maybe it is my settings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:26 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> YES <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:29 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> i can hear<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:29 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we can hear you !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:39 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:19:40 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we can hear you <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:20:23 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ok<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:21:06 PM from Konan Montresor to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> hello all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:21:13 PM from Ziyam Abdeen to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Thanks for the link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:29:04 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> for ATRT, I really don't think we should postpone it
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:29:19 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> but agree with your point.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:31:01 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I can see you feel strongly about this one Rafik, and I agree with what you are saying, but I want to make a small point about process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:31:14 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> me??? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:31:38 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I got voluntold again :) result of having a big mouth. sure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:32:08 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> fair point on the review team members Ayden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:43:31 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> very gracefully!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:47:54 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I don't like this chat part of WebEX. Adobe lets me express myself better.... Bring back adobeee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:49:53 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> None of the disruptors from the RDS group participated in that call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:50:52 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I hope we will be on dobe next time
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:50:57 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> *Adobe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:51:37 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we need our dobe dose!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:51:49 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:52:18 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farz, it's a heavy drug :)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:53:49 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we really just have 3.5 months!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:54:09 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> @Ayden see it as a PDP bootcamp :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:56:40 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> new hand<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:57:15 PM from Farell Folly to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Sorry Guys, I have to leave you in 20 min. I am very sorry. Will listen to the record. Thanks for your understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:57:50 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks for attending Farrell!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:58:02 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we need a budget for legal advice from day 1 of the EPDP, i think telephoning into every call, and i am almost tempted to say we should make the EPDP do a three week long face to face and not leave
LA until they have an initial report ready and agreed... ;-) need to work differently on this one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 13:58:25 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I agree...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:01:19 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> is there any benefit to an external facilitator, i.e. a trade negotiator, with no knowledge of WHOIS, being the chair?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:01:46 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> (aside from animosity because they'd be paid thousands of dollars an hour and we're volunteers)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:04:10 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I was actually thinking along those lines, but we would have to influence the contract or ICANN will pick a Washington type. No washington negotiator/lobbiest would be acceptable to me, to determine
an EU law compliant approach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:07 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> link to email with all notes, recordings and document presenting the models https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1805&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&X=2B503811B950D0BB2E&Y=rafik.dammak%40gmail.com&P=80302<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:10 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Thomas Rickert would be a great choice, seasoned trusted Chair and knows the law :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:18 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> and we have no budget... where will ICANN org find the $ from for this, i wonder?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:26 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Thomas Rickert would be brilliant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:43 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> @Stephanie Thomas is good but not really neutral on the matter ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:50 PM from Avri to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> And he is good at neutrality when in the role<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:52 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> different issue Farz, much less polarizing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:05:54 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> i think he is objective
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:06:06 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Yes I know Fik, it was kind of a joke...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:06:11 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> but he is a great chair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:07:12 PM from Avri to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Are co-chairs being considered, two people who are good at neutrality from each side of the issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:07:30 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> can we talk about whether we should involve the other SO ACs?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:07:39 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> as observers, sure, but as members?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:07:59 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> what if the GAC sends us someone from the US gov and ALAC sends us the RDS RT Chair?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:08:21 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> so these are the things we need to put in the excel sheet
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:08:31 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> who is coming up with the pros and cons?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:08:31 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I think a professional alternative dispute resolution person could call the chairs whenever there was bias shown. WHile I think CHuck Gomes is a great chair, he should have called the disruptors
more often than he did, and The Ombudsman was not really helpful, also did not intervene.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:08:33 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> :) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:09:50 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> 3.5 months to get a first draft, there will need to be a face to face between meetings for this group to make progress, i reckon
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:09:58 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> you may count on it, the ALAC liaison will want to be there<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:10:26 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I think it will be very difficult to exclude the GAC.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:10:54 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> oh someeomne put the chair on hold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:10:54 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> And with 100 new members, it will be difficult to find experienced folks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:00 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> what? are all on hold?!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:01 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> can you hear me?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:04 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> no <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:05 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> no i can't Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:09 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> now yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> now yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:15 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> yes now we can<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:23 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> jejeje<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:33 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> that was trippy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:38 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> not funny!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:11:38 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> indeed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:06 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> is someone taking the Release of one .com?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:25 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> good!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:35 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Join us, Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:37 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> !1 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:45 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> sure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:46 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> oh my god I volunteered for .com public comment ... totally forgot<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:51 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> jajaja<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:14:57 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> where we can join those open public comment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:00 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> haha <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:13 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we have to stop Farzaneh from volunteering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:16 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Flávio, for each of them Rafik sets a placeholder google docs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:23 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> and he also sends the calls on the list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:34 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> and we can simply say: Hi, i want to join!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:15:56 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> oh great, thanks Bruna :D
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:17:26 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I can do a comment on RPM if you want, we have something coming up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:19:52 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I thought we managed to kill that proposal?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:21:50 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> we managed to soften it, but is not dead<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:22:01 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> sure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:22:13 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> dead is better than softened :)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:22:58 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> ajjaja<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:24:50 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I will, most definitely map out the discussions and send an update to the list soon
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:27:34 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> the number of times Stephanie says ICANN's failure :))
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:30:08 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> I think it is the hangover from writing the dissertation....I had to clean out all the biased language and pretend to be neutral there....now I have a slingshot effect happening.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:30:13 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:35:17 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> can you hear me?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:35:19 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> no<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:35:25 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> now?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:35:56 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Yes, this is very interesting Steph! Discussion on a data protection law is at full speed here in brazil and we have been hearing some absurd coments such as: GDPR is not a fight for more rights,
the user cannot fully exercise the rights we gave them. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:43:00 PM from Avri to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> There is a footnote about this that state that if the views happen they will be funded and i think it explains the mechanism. But yes it is tilting toward not doing the review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:43:15 PM from Avri to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> ... if the reviews happen ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:43:18 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> There are serious limits to what the individual can do on his/her own to exercise rights. Just like we regulate roads and water quality, we need to ensure sound data protection practices at different
levels...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:43:40 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> me me !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:45:33 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> There is a need to evaluate ROI from ALAC. They want to do policy work, but we need a critical analysis of what their output is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:45:44 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Just as we do for ourselves, of course....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:45:56 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> But their resources are disproportionate....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:47:48 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:47:54 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks all <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:47:55 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:47:55 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks all <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:48:02 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:48:03 PM from Olga Kyryliuk to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">05/22/2018 14:48:26 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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