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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Please find attendance and recording of the
<b>Monthly NCSG Policy Call </b>of 24 Jan 2017 at 1200 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Attendance:</span></b><span style="color:#002060"> Alperen Eken, Arsene Tungali, Avri Doria, Ayden Férdeline, Bruna Santos, Collin Kurre, Dina, Solveig Jalkanen, Farell FOLLY, Farzaneh Badii, Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNÉ,
Gangadhar Panday, Gnanajeyaraman Rajaram, GZ Kabir, Kathy Kleiman, Kris Seeburn, Louise Marie Hurel, Martin Silva, Mónica Trochez, Nick Shorey, Olga Kyryliuk, Pascal Bekono, Rafik Dammak, Renata Aquino Ribeiro, Shahul Hameed, Stephanie Perrin, Tapani Tarvainen,
Tatiana Tropina, Tomslin Samme-Nlar, Vernatius Ezeama<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Mp3</span></b><span style="color:#002060">:
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https://icann.box.com/shared/static/hgt1pvdj929m442c9n2s71k12t1y002w.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Transcript: </span></b><span style="color:#002060">Attached
<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">AC Chat:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:Dear all, welcome to the NCSG Monthly Policy Call on Wednesday 24th Jan 2018 at 1200 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Mónica Trochez:Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:hi all, we will start in one minutew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Gangadhar Panday:Hi all This is Ganga from Hyderabad India NGO Name: Babul Films Society<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Shahul Hameed:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Alperen Eken:Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Alperen Eken:I cannot connect my audio because of some technical issues here, but I am listening<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Good day o/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:A great turnout today. Thanks so much everyone for logging in and joining us!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Hi everyone, great turnout today!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Olga Kyryliuk:Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Is there someone attempting to talk? I can hear some distorted and quiet noise in the background<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:(maybe an unmuted mic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farell FOLLY:I check mine... I am also on audio bridge.. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farell FOLLY:Phone muted, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farell FOLLY:hello all and BTW, Happy new year<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:I have asked for the operator to mute the line<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:Apolodies for the distraction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:*g<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:@Stephanie: Do you think extending the consultation to a broader set of stakeholders would represent an improvement (step 2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Didn't hear last sentence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I raised the point that if the input from the public did not raise an issue, we are constrained from dealing with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Maryam, please call Arsene back, he has dropped off<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:What's the general view of other constituents on the council - is it near certain to be a unanimously favourable vote in support?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Has there been any discussion around extending ICANN's stay of execution?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:He is back in, Stephanie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Can we abstain?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:People did not actually make the Charter discussion calls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:It has been a busy time, and Michele was sick/away<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:And abstention is most definitely NOT voting against.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Well that is an option that I had not really thought about Nick, not a bad idea....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:yeah I find that strange...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:how can abstention be against... defeating its purpose!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:So an abstention may be one vehicle to express our mixed views on this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:"It's very necessary, we don't hate it, but we can't quite live with it"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Hi all. Apologies for the delay, had another meeting just now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:creative ABRs ... GNSO council :)) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Is there a sum attached to this particular ABR Ayden?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:No sum available but there is a cost involved. I do not see why this tool would be a priority for the community. I see why it would be priority for staff, as it would make their jobs easier
(equally important). But it will use community resources; whether that is staff time that would otherwise be available to support our projects; or funding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:Sounds like CORE BUSINESS to me<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Do I understand correctly, the tool to sign up and follow progress?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:yes, it is a glorified sign up form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:A tool created by staff and maintained by staff?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:they say we should not specify the sum. ICANN people will decide <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:hang on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:(I think dina is connecting her mic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Yes, sorry the voice is not working<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I wanted to add that this is probably a minor investment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I also doubt it will take a lot of time from the staff, could be a very good idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:"With an increase in Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group (WG) activity and membership,there is a need for a centralized platform to optimize WG onboarding of interested communitymembers. This
need has already been expressed by the GNSO Council previously(<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_report-2Dcomments-2D&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=2H1l0yK8hVHhVuDv1pBpUKKG6csWOpflXGVArrNvmtM&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_report-2Dcomments-2D&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=2H1l0yK8hVHhVuDv1pBpUKKG6csWOpflXGVArrNvmtM&e=</a> op-budget-
fy17-five- year-06jun16- en.pdfcomment 103 p.80). The GNSO Council is aware that a Working Group Enrollment tool is part of theICANN I.T. budget, but wishes to see active development in the matter. Onboarding is currentlyhandled by GNSO Secretariat staff via
Google sign up forms, and individual email follow ups regardingStatement of interest completion. The current process is slow, decentralized and administrativelyheavy, both for staff persons involved and community members. An automated sign-up tool wouldallow
for a clear and centralized access to working group onboarding, facilitate group managementfrom sign up to meeting attendance management, facilitate adherence with app"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I agree with Nick's concern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Thank you, Rafik.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:+1 Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:@Rafik - perfect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:for reference agenda is here <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsocouncilmeetings_Final-2BProposed-2BAgenda-2B30-2BJanuary-2B2018&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=RHUyHkFULJvrrmGbxN3Fi_8_51QZug5NaleS1bTjXuo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsocouncilmeetings_Final-2BProposed-2BAgenda-2B30-2BJanuary-2B2018&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=RHUyHkFULJvrrmGbxN3Fi_8_51QZug5NaleS1bTjXuo&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:the draft comment is here <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_gnso-2Dcouncil-2Dicann-2Dincremental-2Dchanges-2D20jan18-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=FHBknWRu2ev97z-XR5kzRP6V9ECSaLL5lvEcM8XmXJk&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_gnso-2Dcouncil-2Dicann-2Dincremental-2Dchanges-2D20jan18-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=FHBknWRu2ev97z-XR5kzRP6V9ECSaLL5lvEcM8XmXJk&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farell FOLLY:thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:hand<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Agree with Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:I remember when some of the councillors told us we have to narrow our comments on travel support <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:I agree with Ayden that we should hold them to the same standard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:keep it ibjective and nice and sweet ---i agree with Ayden although its not for me to say so but i think being focused on the important bits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:or I least I wouldn't mind to hold them to the same standard. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:agree Rafik <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tatiana Tropina:friendly amendments <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I agree that how the meetings are organized impacts our work. A seven day meeting is a big commitment....the group that was working on meeting planning tried to address "separable parts" of
the meeting, in order to facilitate people coming to half the meeting, and I do believe this is an important focus....making sure activities are grouped during the week so that one could come late or leave early depending on their focus of interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Farzaneh Badii:I am sorry I have to leave in a couple of minutes for a meeting, if it ends timely I will come back<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:I support the drafted Council comment re: Item 8. Seems logical to me<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I must confess that I have not focused on this topic yet....it is important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:removal of particpant procedure needs a little more focus however<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Yes, I am finding the WHOIS2 review team is going in circles. Very much afraid of what is going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Alperen Eken:I need to leave for a meeting as well, will come back asap<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Complaint officer is in a conflict situation, in my view,.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12pERsLkRtSg0hqgSDw9VWMRtuw59TQXcIvuEmyJ9e9A_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=2qluFiPRztEp-tG4OLk7sRpqACLCUCb8biSoNiMP2bU&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12pERsLkRtSg0hqgSDw9VWMRtuw59TQXcIvuEmyJ9e9A_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=2qluFiPRztEp-tG4OLk7sRpqACLCUCb8biSoNiMP2bU&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12pERsLkRtSg0hqgSDw9VWMRtuw59TQXcIvuEmyJ9e9A_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=TMqpAP9GbQYz5og3q608OuJMPdMfy-IB1njWegTY9nc&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12pERsLkRtSg0hqgSDw9VWMRtuw59TQXcIvuEmyJ9e9A_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=TMqpAP9GbQYz5og3q608OuJMPdMfy-IB1njWegTY9nc&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:i sent some edits to the Council list, more stylistic than substantive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Agree with that. Think we should support the continuation SSR2 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:suggested edits, i should say<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:yep<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I am glad SSR2 issue is being addressed constructively and some work with the group has been done already. I understand not all team members were engaged/qualified: engaging new members
could make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:I agrre with you Dina. There was an internal problem of coordination. I was participating as an observer and thigns got a bit confusing after a while. So, a new team (those that want to stay)
and others that might want to engage should be on the table.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:SSR2 is in the middle of its implementation, right ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I don't think they have actually reached the half way point ....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:they were stopped at ToS or scope...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:oh <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Feedback has been collected from the team, reviewed and clear action items were put down.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:+1 Steph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:I was also an observer on SSR2 and agree with Louise. I wonder though whether addressing these issues of coordination might require new chairs etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I have a comment: Comment Drafters group is paused due to inactivity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:What is your question Rafik?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:It will resume after ICANN61 with a new participation call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:@stephanie my question was any update from RDS/RPM/Subpro WGS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:@Louise @Nick ?Bruna if there is replacement, from GNSO it is unlikely from the current pool of candidates not a enw call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:it is between processing and collecting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:So it is dismantling due to lack of interest/engagement? I recall that in Abu Dhabi that was a concern.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:not dismantled<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Louise: [Comment drafters] Yes, it is paused. We will make a couple of new efforts but if there is not engagement, the group will terminate permanently.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:i would tend to agree with kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:These polls are not representative. I am very worried about how these polls are going to be used. I must say it is exhausting trying to keep up with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:that might work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:We have tried this @kathy, sadly we have difficulties getting a high rate of engagement ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:yes, @Dina. Thought things would progress after the meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:FYI the GNSO council letter about SSR2 here <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2018-January/020808.html">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2018-January/020808.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Thanks Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:from our side, only Stephanie i would say<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I certainly am<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Tomslin Samme-Nlar:I am<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos: [Comment drafters]: Dina, maybe you could try to work with the ncuc fellows for San Juan post meeting (:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Louise: [Comment drafters] We see what works, what doesn't - next time we will include calls so it is apparent at once how much particiaption there is etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I am, not every single call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:registrars in in general based in US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> avri doria:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gTLDRDS_Attendance-2BLog&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=I_vBytA13BPKhgV4x2lS1DYwIhd1iA46wGMaSTvzIQY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gTLDRDS_Attendance-2BLog&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=I_vBytA13BPKhgV4x2lS1DYwIhd1iA46wGMaSTvzIQY&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:thanks Avri. we have 46 members and more observers. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:wecan think of a gated access if they are legal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kathy:Tc Nick - very valuable<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:Interpol works like that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen::)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Stephanie +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:+1 Stephanie!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:If we have 46 members, we could have a joint strategy/getting up-to-speed call. If Stephanie would be up for it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:its fact.....i just finished a long chat with symantec and they don't want t let go<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:We did one last year, and the turnout extremely low. It is also a lot of work on the part of those who are active to arrange and lead such a call...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Nice!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Ayden, do you have other ideas to work on engagement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Yes, it is a lot of work, but for new people, like me, it could be of great help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:Sorry, I think people need to do the catch up themselves. When I did a call like this last year it took me 20+ hours to prepare, and less than 5 people turned up. It is not worth my time doing
again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:I cannot speak for others, of course.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:But there is likely to still be prep on the part of those who are already very busy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:I am not following RDS at the moment so am not best positioned to do such a call again<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:I am sorry not many people showed up for that call, Ayden.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:No reason to give up on supporting others - which doesn't mean one doesn't have to do the reading etc. by themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:If you don't have time, that is understandable and 20 hours sounds like a lot of preparation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:We have resource constraints, and if others would like to lead such a call or engagement strategy, I'd strongly encourage them to do so :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:Yes, I asked Stephanie.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Is there a google doc already? We got some interesting ideas on the list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:I would be very happy to answer focused questions that come in, but arranging a webinar is a whole lot more work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:yes, @Dina, could you take notes on that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:If not a call, a Q&A would be a cool opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Sorry I stepped out to get coffee, are we talking about the GDPR comment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:If we can arrange a call, I'm happy to talk through how the RDS can be used in an investigation if that's any help in narrowing down on our ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:@stephanie, GDPR Models<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:and now FY19<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:@Stephanie we can retalk about GDPR, it was only me speaking :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:Agree that we need to add the importance of the additional budget to our outreach and capacity building efforts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kris Seeburn:plus they are also talking to have translators for all groups...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Can we say make leaner the organization and don't cut resources from the community?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:as main conclusion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I agree with AYden. For those of going to LA, if we go to the office, please note the lavishness of that building<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:but probably stronger: don't crush the community <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:ICANN expanded too quickly in the last years, there is likely questions about priority and projects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:Just to be clear, I am not complaining about our hotel next week, it is 4-star and comfortable... but the staff entitlement is for a 5-star property which is twice the price a night! Why is
the 4-star option not suitable for staff? It's not that the more economical property is booked out, either... I called to check yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yup insist on internal accountability of the organization (in terms of reducing costs too)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:The eco model right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:(I'm going off of rack rates, I don't know if they negotiated a different group rate, now that I think about it.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:old<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:hands are not working in Adobe for me for some reason<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:sorry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kathy:I support the ECO model as an interim model... and Model 2B as a possibility too<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Pascal Bekono:@Ayden, Interesting point <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:new nomcom letter out too... pls see the ncsg list for a link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_13uG7wN5FWFa1E3cpDPfUolsIxlN4WpMw73FWOxx8VEU_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=WrSVpzImhI-7tBs9BxSZQfZ7on120lHx1HRRb8l662A&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_13uG7wN5FWFa1E3cpDPfUolsIxlN4WpMw73FWOxx8VEU_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=WrSVpzImhI-7tBs9BxSZQfZ7on120lHx1HRRb8l662A&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:just that comment :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:Good, Kathy, I have been watching the chat, and have been proceeding on that basis. I am afraid I have had terrible email problems recently, associated (I think) with my abysmal Internet speeds
(up is running .2mps, down anywhere from .6 to 2.8. Plus I am being tossed between two towers, causing connections to time out. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes will soon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Stephanie Perrin:I would like to put in an additional budget request to get a room to discuss accreditation of private sector security actors, in Barcelona. This would be a workshop, where we could bring in
civil society experts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I support Stephanie's idea<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:We should also probably address in FY19 budget that cutting resources from community is cutting important capacity building community led initiatives such as wkshops ideas. And we should
be against that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:5th intersessional<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:(hand for intersessional)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:(q: there was some talk of combined policy messages coming out at the closing session at intersessional - do we have closings in common?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Kathy:I've looked up the link for the ECO (GDPR) model -- <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_files_1212283-2D2018-2D01-2D10-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=qCm3y9hZeorwbGKFIDUtxfsAxycdVWnSObvr53hoCOU&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_files_1212283-2D2018-2D01-2D10-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=MaJjWEiEZXrlLJTclpyfNb6qRQX-cNex_S9Ou_S_A3k&s=qCm3y9hZeorwbGKFIDUtxfsAxycdVWnSObvr53hoCOU&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Rafik:@Stephanie for ABR, you should respond to Farzaneh email in NCSG list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Nick Shorey:I have to leave, but thanks Rafik, Maryam, and all for the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes, thanks Rafik... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I will also have do drop off soon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks everyone :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Ayden Férdeline:thanks all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Louise Marie Hurel:thanks all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Gangadhar Panday:bye from Ganga<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> avri doria:bye<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Bruna Santos:thanks all, see you next week! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Dina Solveig Jalkanen:bye from Helsinki o/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> Maryam Bakoshi:Thank you, All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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