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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As a quantitative economist I would
like to add to Milton's cautions about how to read the data, and
raise a more problematic issue. Relative growth numbers, as
between new DNS and new abuse by themselves mean nothing. First,
DNS abuse is a "mixed bag" of abuses ranging from annoying to
dangerous and criminal. Second, the numbers do not reflect the
success or failure of abuse reduction efforts. <br>
<br>
The measures can be recorded as cardinal (how many) and ordinal
(these worse than those). Both numbers are useful in the
appropriate context, for example the contexts of counter-abuse
that might work (or might not work) in the design of the RDS and
changed WhoIS, and what LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies) or
software designers might do to counter abuse. <br>
<br>
However, overall measures of DNS abuse are composed of annoyances
(search engine service solicitations), crimes (financial scams)
and whatever. Bundled together as DNS abuse, their numbers tell us
nothing about the merits, or demerits of expansion of the DNS
system. These are two separate issued and we should not conflate
them, or allow others to conflate them.<br>
<br>
Sam L. <br>
<br>
On 9/20/2017 2:40 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Farrell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks
for alerting us to this.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
have quickly skimmed the report and have one immediate
comment, probably more later if I get time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
report contains this stuff:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align:justify;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">Three
testable hypothetical scenarios derive from the suggested
base model:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">ü<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000">Model
1:</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000"></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">The
expansion of the DNS has resulted in a proportional decrease
in DNS abuse
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">
<b><span style="color:#70AD47">Effective Safeguard
Hypothesis.</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;text-autospace:none">
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#70AD47"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">ü<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000">Model
2:</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000"></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">The
expansion of the DNS via the New gTLD Program has resulted
in a proportional increase in DNS abuse
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">
<b><span style="color:#70AD47">Ineffective Safeguard
Hypothesis.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-align:justify;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:normal;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;text-autospace:none">
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">ü<span style="font:7.0pt
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000">Model
3:</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif;color:#C00000"></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">The
expansion of the DNS has had a null effect on DNS abuse
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"SourceSansPro-Regular",sans-serif">
Ineffective
<b><span style="color:#70AD47">Safeguard Hypothesis.</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
would like to point out that Model 3 is completely
illogical. If the growth of the name space results in a
proportional increase in DNS abuse, then it means that the
addition of new gTLDs has no effect on the overall rate of
abuse. Therefore, the safeguards are effective and there
should be no presumption against adding new TLDs.
<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Currently
Model 3 says if there is a null effect it means the
safeguards are ineffective. This is nonsense. It presumes
that we can’t add new TLDs unless it somehow results in the
secular rate of abuse <i>going down</i> <i>across the
entire name space, including legacy TLDs</i>. This is like
saying that if the growth of the internet results in a
proportional increase in cybercrime, then we should stop
adding people to the internet. It isn’t logically justified
– and it isn’t fair to those who are not already on the
internet, is it?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
hope everyone on that committee from NCSG understands that
the IPR constituency and some in the BC have always opposed
name space expansion and will search for any excuse and any
reasons to block the expansion of the name space. And in
many respects, these people are arguing against the
expansion of the internet itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dr.
Milton L Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Professor
School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Georgia
Institute of Technology
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;text-decoration:none"><img
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
NCSG-Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Farell Folly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2017 6:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Public Comment on the Statistical
Analysis of DNS Abuse in gTLDs (SADAG) Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All (<span style="color:red">Sorry
for double posting - as I have no idea whether my
first attempts was effectively delivered or not</span>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The NCSG is required to make a
public comment on the SADAG report available at this
<a
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/sadag-final-2017-08-09-en"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
link</a>. Actually, following a call from Rafik,
our policy Committte Chair, a few people volunteered
to draft a
<a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10K4cnqMrhRnF1mZFtBbQKpzGNMBcZv2OCjvly_8eYoQ/edit"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
proposal</a> which intends to represent the NCSG
position on <a
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/sadag-final-2017-08-09-en"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
this report</a>, therefore; all members are
encouraged to review the draft and make any comment
or suggestion by tomorrow september 19th (ideally -
as the original deadline) or not later than thursday
(we are trying to posptone the deadline to Friday).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The
purpose of this public comment is to gather
feedback and analyze the data, methodology, and
results of the Statistical Analysis of DNS Abuse
in the new gTLDs (SADAG) report. The report is
under the review of the CCT Review Team which will
use it as input to evaluate the effectiveness of
the nine safeguards techniques to mitigate DNS
abuse following the introduction of the new gTLDs.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To have a quick background on the
topic, I drafted some materials that I want to share
with those who have no idea about it but wish to
contribute. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">@__f_f__<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">@__f_f__<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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