<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">On these judgment calls, I think the only practical solution is to rely on the Executive Committee to apply guidelines wisely and with the interests of NCUC at
heart, rather than trying to formulate ever more detailed rules.</span></p></div></blockquote>+1 on this, we may come up with pages!<div><br><div>And i do personally encourage our members to continue raising/sharing questions on this thread; and to the EC to take note of them. These examples of luckily situations can help them in the future when deliberating on new membership requests.</div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As an aside, we did have some concern in the early days about dominance of the constituency by a single global organization with lots of chapters, and ISOC was
on our minds. We wrote parts of the bylaws that included a trigger that would go off if there was an organized effort by an organization like ISOC to “take over” or dominate the constituency, but these threats have never materialized. </span></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Indeed this is an important and serious point to note. Can you please share more on this, Dr Muller? Is there something particular that has been decided?</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joly MacFie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 2, 2017 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: operating procedures for membership changes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an organizational member rep (ISOC-NY) I take an interest in the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">a) The organization is incorporated as a noncommercial entity (in countries that have a provision in their commercial code) or, if unincorporated, or if operating in a country without provisions for noncommercial incorporation, that operates
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<p class="MsoNormal">and b) Be the exclusive user of at least one domain name for noncommercial purposes,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and c) Is engaged in online activities that are primarily noncommercial,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No problem with any of that But..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">organized as a membership-based organization under the applicable law as used in NCSG’s Charter) the organization should not only be noncommerical itself, but should have a primarily noncommercial focus, and the membership should also be
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an Internet Society Chapter we do not discriminate on the basis of, or even know the majority of, our members' commercial activity. However, all NCSG votes are taken by our (elected) board, who might well qualify, but are elected by
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Please find the attached procedures for handling changes in one's NCSG membership status, which is intended to formalize our EC’s operation on such matters. If there are no significant concerns with these procedures, they should go forward as an NCSG operating
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