<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">As those who are on the Next Gen RDS Working Group know, these issues are very much under active discussion. And of course, looking at issues from all stakeholders perspectives is the basis of the ICANN policy process. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Obtaining information necessary to prosecute someone may soon require actively identifying yourself and authenticating yourself as prosecutor who needs the information for the purposes of prosecution, rather than simply accessing public data. </div><div class="">That is a reasonable tradeoff for preserving appropriate privacy for applicants. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As regards cybercrime generally, there are pros and cons - it will provide significant mitigation of some categories of cybercrime, however. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Jul 2017, at 8:24 pm, Ade Bo <<a href="mailto:adebodea@GMAIL.COM" class="">adebodea@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello everyone, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Has anyone thought how are these changes going to influence cybercrime? </div><div class="">How much harder is it going to be to find information necessary to prosecute someone?</div><div class="">We are thinking of protecting privacy but isn’t there nothing contradicting that ?</div><div class="">I believe these matter should be looked at from all the stakeholders perspective.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
<div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">With kind regards<br class=""><br class="">Adela Bodea</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination”</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> Albert Einstein </div>
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Jul 2017, at 14:06, Michael Oghia <<a href="mailto:mike.oghia@gmail.com" class="">mike.oghia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I agree too Stephanie, excellent points David. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Would anyone support us as the NCSG requesting a formal response to David's points (and a formal explanation as to the motivation behind Mr. Halloran's appointment)?</div><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" class="">Best,</font></div><div class=""><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" class="">-Michael<br class=""></font></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">I totally agree David,
and as someone who last worked in risk management, if I were
the CEO looking at this mess right now I would be asking hard
questions of the people who have advised the Board to just
ignore the data protection commissioners for the past 17 years.
First position paper on WHOIS being illegal was in 2000.
Makes a heck of an easy case to take to Court....</font></font></p><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><p class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br class="">
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I admit I find this development disappointing.
<div class="">While it is a sign (along with the GDPR task force
established at the last meeting) that ICANN has finally
understood the significance of its downplaying and avoidance of
the GDPR and other international data protection law over the
last few years, it is disappointing that:</div>
<div class=""> a) ICANN is still not taking the issue that
seriously, as it is in addition to existing Deputy General
Counsel duties, so represents a limited allocation of resources
to the issue; </div>
<div class="">b) is a missed opportunity to bring additional
experience and expertise into the organisation, expertise ICANN
desperately needs (and is currently relying on its volunteers to
provide);</div>
<div class="">c) is continuing to the have the issue managed by
the same team whose denial and obstinate avoidance of the issue
has led to the organisation now facing a crisis;</div>
<div class="">d) continues a pattern of having ICANN legal be put
in charge of areas where it is largely responsible for continued
organisation dysfunction, so effectively being given the
opportunity to manage criticism but not given any strong
inventive to admit to past mistakes. . </div>
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<div class="">On 29 Jul 2017, at 3:32 am, Ayden Férdeline
<<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
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<div class="">ICANN has now <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/introducing-icann-s-chief-data-protection-officer-cdpo" title="appointed someone" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">appointed someone</a> to the
role of "Chief Data Protection Officer". Daniel
Halloran, who in his bio is described as "one of
ICANN's longest-serving employees" and reports
directly to John Jeffrey, does not list his experience
in establishing privacy frameworks nor their
associated compliance structures in his bio. That
said, I wish him all the best in this new role and
look forward to seeing how ICANN's understanding of
data protection law evolves over the coming months now
that this position has been created...<br class="">
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