<div dir="auto">Hi James<div dir="auto">I will like some more light on your position, </div><div dir="auto">Thanks</div><div dir="auto">Remmy</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Jul 2017 15:33, "James Gannon" <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I would challenge the ability of anyone to check the safety and security of a domain via WHOIS, personally I would not see this as a valid use case.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>gangadhar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 July 2017 14:51<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] How do non-commercial Internet users use WHOIS?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:black">The primary purpose an NGO/Civil Society use WHOIS<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:black">is to check if the domain name is safe and secure.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">In our first meeting, we committed to participating in a data gathering exercise to identify the existing users of WHOIS, what data elements
 they use, and for what purpose. At this time we are not making the determination as to whether a purpose is legitimate or illegitimate, though that call will come, or if a data element comprises personally identifiable information. For now we are simply trying
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 We have conducted some informal consultation among our peers and have been provided with a few use cases, but not too many. It is possible that end users do not use WHOIS widely [and that has been the assumption that has informed previous exercises like this
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