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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Please find attendance and recording of NCSG Finance Committee Meeting 20 June 2017 at 1300UTC. Transcript would be posted when it becomes available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Attendance: </span></b><span style="color:#002060">Mubashir Sargana<b>,
</b>Tapani Tarvainen<b>, </b>Ed Morris<b>, </b>Ayden Férdeline<b>, </b>Marita Moll<b>,
</b>Stephanie Perrin<b>, </b>Sarata Omane<b> | </b>Apologies:<b> </b>Sam Lanfranco<b> |
</b>Staff: Maryam Bakoshi<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">Mp3</span></b><span style="color:#002060">:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#002060">AC Chat:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Dear all, welcome to the NCSG Finance Committee Meeting on 20 June 2017 at 1300 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Mubashir Sargana: Hi Maryam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Mubashir!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: I can hear you<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: but you can't hear me ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Mubashir Sargana: I can hear<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: I cant hear you Tapani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Ayden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Mubashir Sargana: Hi Ayden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: My mic doesn't seem to work :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: @Tapani. Can you call in?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: But we can have the meeting without Sam, he'll just has to be given opportunity to express his views on any decisions later<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: I'd suggest we need at least 2 audible FC members to proceed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: Great<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: I'm waiting for dialout<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: Welcome Ayden and Mubashir. Once we start please feel free to actively participate. Great to see you here!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: OK. Let us know when you are on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Edward Morris: Welcome Marita!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Marita Moll: Thank you. Just observing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Will this cost for the membership database be ongoing into further financial years?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Or has the project reached completion now?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Am I understanding correctly - it is possible it may cost $9,000 next financial year, too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: (If the development is not finished.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: What exactly are we getting for thiss?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Can we not use the ICANN systems for elections and tally management?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Call me cheap, but it seems like a fair bit of money.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Yes, it sounds like a lot to me too. We have spent $18,000 now on a one page application form? Please forgive me if I am misunderstanding the development<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Ok, so it is basically membership management that we are paying for<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: How mobile is this? in other words, if we decide we are being overcharged, can we take our data and move with minimum expense or do we have to do this all over again. I realize these are naive
questions, I have never managed these functions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Will this database generate diversity reports, i.e. gender balance of membership, nationalities, age? what data are we collecting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: what is the acronym this application is for? sorry did not catch it....so someone is going to the INTA conference?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: I presume, re: INTA and the $5,000, we will open a call for nominations? I imagine Robin and Kathy would both be good fits (as would others, of course), but how are we selecting the participants
here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: In general appointments belong to the Policy Committee, I'd imagine it applies here as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: maybe I shouldn't say "we", as I am not a part of the process ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: Yes you are!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I must have missed the discussion of all these projects on the list....the role of the finance committee is to approve funds, right, not develop proposals? SO were these discussed at the NCSG
exec cttee?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: The point is, they proposals should be brought to the policy call so the broader membership can be aware<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: FCET?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: We only have one broad membership call a month, it is the policy cal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Transparency is a great thing, particularly with how we are spending money, whether it is ICANN's money or other people's money<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I think you will find this is why Milton runs the account.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: it is hard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Hi Stephanie I mute your line<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Please feel free to open it when ou are ready to speak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: What if the NCSG had a bank account, also opened by Milton? (Just thinking out loud here - if the NCUC situation works, why not replicate it for the NCSG?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Hi all, please rember to state your name before speaking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Maryam Bakoshi: Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I think the transparency issues can be solved more easily than opening a bank account<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: If ICANN is worried about liability, then individual members ought to have the same concerns, frankly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: +1 Stephanie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: I support no dues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: The suggestion that NPOC and NCUC could be asked to pay $20... would it really be $20, or could this be rightly or wrongly perceived as a way of suffocating one constituency by setting the fee
too high?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: I know that would not be our intent but it could be the perception<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Why are you calling Milton Dr,? just curious....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: ncsg cannot _demand_ any fees from constituencies, it'd be voluntary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: i think we should be seeking to grow our revenue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: as our revenue now is zero anything at all would be growth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: yes, thanks Ed. i think it is important we develop financial independence and have the ability to support our constituencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Marita Moll: I am confused about what the funds are for<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: me too<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: The question is who has time for fundraising. I am flat out overcommitted on the PDPs and working groups, need help doing our policy work which is one of our key goals and objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: @Marita: The NCUC uses funds to bring people to ICANN meetings and to other relevant meetings, to host outreach events and to pay for receptions, to pay for web hosting, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: What is that organization Ed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: PIR is an NCUC and NPOC donor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: Public Interest Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Our goal is to get ICANN to pay for the website and the travel requests....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I agree that CROPP funds have not been fully satisfactory but we should pursue that and make it better first<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: We are wasting resources... we are the only stakeholder group not accepting policy support from WBC Global... if we do not accept that aid, we need our own $ to hire help occassionally<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: FC list, or should we take this to the broader NCSG-Discuss list?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: These are policy decisions, take the matter to the broader list and seek input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: we can set up a separate list for this if desired. In any case we'd issue a call for interested people as widely as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Don't forget to invite the Finance folks from ICANN to the public finance meeting in joburg, that way we may get more members interested in the finance ctee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: if a call was published, I'd put my name forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I would say it might be a good idea to propose expansion of CT resources during the budget discussion for next year. I think Joseph and all do excellent work, they need more resources in order
to be more timely. We also need more targetted assistance with visa applications, to get necessary docs on time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: sounds great in theory, but i have little confident that the Finance department is going to change. the staff i dealt with have been there 10+ years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: when you say "we" Ed, you don't mean the NCSG is getting the $50k, you mean the Empowered Community is?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: just want to clarify that please<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: All of which means if we get more people involved so that we can respond on time with appropriate collaboration, we wil do better this year. And thanks for your efforts to get that money for
the EC last year<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: thanks Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I dont really think we can claim to be more diverse than ALAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: I don't really think we are ready for this Ed....we have a finance cttee of 3, we have a record meeting with attendance today of 7 and one of the core members is not here....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: We have not figured out as an SG exactly what we are doing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: If you are going to engage the GNSO, Ed, you should talk to your fellow councillors. Policy cttee is where that happens usually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Ayden Férdeline: thank you all, thank you Ed for moderating this session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">stephanie Perrin: Yes thanks Ed!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Tapani Tarvainen: bye all and thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Maryam Bakoshi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Secretariat Support – NCSG/NCUC/NPOC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">S: maryam.bakoshi.icann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F4E79">T: +44 7737698036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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