<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Bill,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">indeed, we got involved in the applicant support. Many from NCSG participated actively in the applicant support working group aka JAS. for reference, you can check the recommendations and reports made by the working group here <a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support/jas-wg-materials">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support/jas-wg-materials</a>. one of concern was the late implementation of support program when the applications process started.<br>
<br>I understand that people tend to focus on the application fee but at the working group, we acknowledged that is not the main issue. We worked on other aspects like in-kind support for technical, legal and other matters not just for the application but the operation too. there were several entities keen to provide such support. there was also an idea to encourage common registry providers as shared pool for such applicants.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Regarding the support for the application fee, there are several constraints in such way that an applicant who went for it and finds itself ineligible will have its application rejected in the new gTLD program. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">we should continue the work in the subsequent procedures working group to remove all unneeded restrictions imposed by requirements in the applicant guidebook. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-23 16:34 GMT+09:00 William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi gents<div><br></div><div>NCSG was centrally involved in raising and then pushing applicant support back in 2009-2011.  Are you saying we should now reverse our very public position?  I’m not convinced, but would like to hear more rationale for the reversal as well as the views of others, including those who put a lot of time into this back in the day.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="gmail-"><div>On May 22, 2017, at 21:23, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_8314654806080205361Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div><div class="gmail-m_8314654806080205361WordSection1" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span class="gmail-"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I agree with you Ayden. Lowering entry barriers, not “financial aid,” is the solution. Moreover, offering financial aid will encourage some applicants to apply even if there is no sustainable market demand. We should be talking about exempting developing country applicants from expensive regulatory requirements, not offering them subsidies.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dr. Milton L Mueller<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Professor,<span class="gmail-m_8314654806080205361Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://spp.gatech.edu/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">School of Public Policy</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Georgia Institute of Technology<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Internet Governance Project<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://internetgovernance.org/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)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