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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seems like James and I agree with Ayden but for different reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">James is worried that a new TLD is a “core part of the Internet” and entry barriers should be high. I disagree on both counts.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A new TLD is not a core part of the Internet; it’s like adding a web site or a second level domain, and if the operator of that domain or web site doesn’t handle
their responsibilities well they will lose business and no one will pay attention to them or use them. The market self-corrects. The Root is a core part of the Internet. A few highly-utilized TLDs, such as .COM or .ORG, are core parts of the Internet; DOT
MUSEUM is not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Unless many, many, many people choose to register in it, a TLD is just another service on the internet. And the only way to get lots of people to register in
a TLD is to offer good value and reliable service. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ALL of the big TLDs we have now started very small and very rough. If Verisign had had to conform to ICANN standards in 1991, when it started, it would never
have been able to enter the business; same goes for all the other big TLDs, from .UK to .CN. Why are we requiring small, start-up, developing country service providers to conform to standards expected of Verisign and Neustar, well-financed corporations that
have been in existence for 20 years? This is inherently discriminatory against LDCs and developing country entrepreneurs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Gannon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Comment on GNSO Community Comment 2 (CC2) on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures / Consultation and review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I find myself in agreement with Ayden on this one, but I realise that Im in the rough here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I don’t think that approaching the security and stable management of a TLD is something that needs to be lowered and supported, if we do so we run the risk of entering
registries or operators into the root that do not have the financial stability required to operate a new gTLD. I agree that supports can be offered but I don’t agree that we should be subsiding or telling groups what they need to do to be able to run such
a core part of the internet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">-James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 23 May 2017 at 08:53<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">indeed, we got involved in the applicant support. Many from NCSG participated actively in the applicant support working group aka JAS. for reference, you can check
the recommendations and reports made by the working group here <a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support/jas-wg-materials">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support/jas-wg-materials</a>. one of concern was the late
implementation of support program when the applications process started.<br>
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I understand that people tend to focus on the application fee but at the working group, we acknowledged that is not the main issue. We worked on other aspects like in-kind support for technical, legal and other matters not just for the application but the operation
too. there were several entities keen to provide such support. there was also an idea to encourage common registry providers as shared pool for such applicants.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regarding the support for the application fee, there are several constraints in such way that an applicant who went for it and finds itself ineligible will have
its application rejected in the new gTLD program. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">we should continue the work in the subsequent procedures working group to remove all unneeded restrictions imposed by requirements in the applicant guidebook. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">2017-05-23 16:34 GMT+09:00 William Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">NCSG was centrally involved in raising and then pushing applicant support back in 2009-2011. Are you saying we should now reverse our very public position? I’m
not convinced, but would like to hear more rationale for the reversal as well as the views of others, including those who put a lot of time into this back in the day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On May 22, 2017, at 21:23, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree with you Ayden. Lowering entry barriers, not “financial aid,” is the solution. Moreover, offering financial aid will encourage some applicants to apply
even if there is no sustainable market demand. We should be talking about exempting developing country applicants from expensive regulatory requirements, not offering them subsidies.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Professor,<span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://spp.gatech.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">School
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Internet Governance Project</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://internetgovernance.org/</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">NCSG-Discuss
[<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</span></a>]<span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden
Férdeline<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Comment on GNSO Community Comment 2 (CC2) on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures / Consultation and review</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bruna, THANK YOU so much for drafting this. This is excellent. I have made a number of edits to this statement, mainly stylistic in nature, but I have also added a few comments. I'm not sure that we have an agreed
position on this topic just yet, particularly in relation to paragraphs #5 and #6. I would like to hear from others to see if they think this is a position that the NCSG should take. Personally I am reluctant to support a call for financial aid for applicants;
while the application fee per new gTLD is $185,000, my understanding is that the real cost to launch a new gTLD is closer to $2,000,000 once you take into account other requirements. So I don't think lowering the cost of the application fee is going to have
too much of an effect on improving consumer choice and the availability of new gTLDs in more scripts and languages. But I might be wrong. Thanks again for taking the lead on this comment.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From:<span class="gmail-m8314654806080205361apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bruna kindly volunteered and drafted this response to the Community Comment consultation from the new gTLD subsequent procedures working group for NCSG<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/133uzvDQI__EmNGhqiDkHW0EvfvKOwLE9m7ozNIZUVNY/edit" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://docs.google.com/document/d/133uzvDQI__EmNGhqiDkHW0EvfvKOwLE9m7ozNIZUVNY/edit</span></a>.
the details about the public consultation are here <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cc2-new-gtld-subsequent-procedures-2017-03-22-en" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cc2-new-gtld-subsequent-procedures-2017-03-22-en</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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William J. Drake<br>
International Fellow & Lecturer<br>
Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br>
University of Zurich, Switzerland<br>
<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> (direct), <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> (lists),<br>
<a href="http://www.williamdrake.org" target="_blank">www.williamdrake.org</a><br>
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