<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I have been hesitant
to weigh in because I did not participate in this group, so
have no idea what you folks discussed. However, frivolous and
vexatious clauses are one of my pet peeves, so I will offer
some suggestions, they may be off the wall but possibly there
could be something useful in there.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie
Perrin<br>
</font></font></p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-04-07 18:54, Michael
Karanicolas wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAGQVoTijLiKiHxy6TwjBSE-XgdWFZw818SfHgcpdvTVq9x5cDQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<div dir="ltr">Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry about the delay in responding - I was on another
deadline today. The Comments have been fairly quiet so far.
There's been a statement from a lawyer from the <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">National Internet Exchange of India with some fairly loopy ideas (like creating an "abuse team" to handle vexatious requests). There's also been a very nice letter signed by 53 NGOs fully endorsing the Recommendations. And that's it. Which means that ICANN staff/ICANN legal are likely going to wait until just before the deadline to put in their response.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">As a result, it may be helpful to reinforce the need for more transparency from ICANN legal, which I'm sure is going to be contentious, but which I believe many on this list may see as a priority. It's great that the Submission mentions the need to respond despite competing work pressures, as I expect we'll get pushback there as well. </span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">The only other thing I would suggest adding is to maybe reinforce Recommendation #14, which narrows the public interest test so it allows for disclosures in the public interest but not any refusal on public interest grounds. This is actually enormously important. If ICANN can refuse a request on vague "public interest" grounds, that basically renders the list of exceptions worthless. Not sure if we'll get specific pushback from ICANN on that front, but the NIEI lawyer is arguing against it, so would be helpful to reinforce.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Just some thoughts. Looking good so far, in my humble opinion,</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Michael</span></font></div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 10:29 AM,
Matthew Shears <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com" target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Hi all</p>
<p>Hoping that you might be able to jump in on this.
See doc below.<br>
</p>
<p>Michael please have a look at the comments so far and
your thoughts as author would be greatly appreciated.
What's missing - anything we should be focused on?<br>
</p>
<p>Its due imminently and there has not really been enough
comment.</p>
<p>As my membership status is somewhat in flux perhaps you
could circulate this more broadly to NCSG discus and PC
to get input.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Matthew<br>
</p>
<div>
<div class="h5"> <br>
<div class="m_8223181833054313851moz-cite-prefix">On
04/04/2017 18:47, matthew shears wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>Hi all</p>
<p>Have taken a first go at comments on this
excellent report.</p>
<p>Link:</p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xLCMDHoAqdo6pShdTEThHPDvsNYXpTkv1eaHFDMMwBI/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1xLCMDHoAqdo6pShdTEThHPDvsNYXp<wbr>Tkv1eaHFDMMwBI/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br>
</p>
<p>DId not quite get to the Hotline - apologies.
Also raised some questions for your thoughts.<br>
</p>
<p>Please have at it!</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
<p>(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com"
target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>)<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_8223181833054313851moz-cite-prefix">On
03/04/2017 14:01, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks
Michael and Matt, happy to comment on a
google doc once it is ready. Reading the
report now....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Cheers
Stephanie</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_8223181833054313851moz-cite-prefix">On
2017-04-03 08:43, Michael Karanicolas wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Hi Stephanie,
Actually, Matthew Shears has taken over the lead on drafting the NCSG
response to the transparency report (we thought it better that he do
it - given that I was one of the group's Rapporteurs).
Maybe he can offer an update? The deadline for submissions is in a week.
Best,
Michael
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Stephanie Perrin
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Thanks Indeed Mamadou, I think that Michael Karanicolas was doing a draft on
the transparency report but beyond that I am not sure who is working on
first drafts (I just know it is not me!!)
Please folks, we need some volunteers here.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2017-03-31 08:30, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
Thanks for sharing, Mamadou. I hope the NCSG will be able to respond to most
of these consultations. If we have any members from Ethiopia or Eritrea (or
who can read the Ethiopic script), we could work together on a response to
the below-mentioned Proposal for Ethiopic Script Root Zone Label Generation
Rules.
- Ayden
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Monthly ICANN Open Public Comments Reminder
Local Time: 31 March 2017 1:20 PM
UTC Time: 31 March 2017 12:20
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alfamamadou@HOTMAIL.COM" target="_blank">alfamamadou@HOTMAIL.COM</a>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>
Reference Japanese Label Generation Rules (LGR) for the Second Level
Open : 27 Jan 2017 23:59 UTC
close : 31 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Recommendations to Improve ICANN's Transparency
Open : 21 Feb 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 10 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Implementation Guidelines
Open : 3 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 17 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Interim Paper Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Names of Countries and
Territories as Top Level Domains
Open : 24 Feb 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 21 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Enhancing Accountability Guidelines for Good Faith
Open : 7 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 24 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Competition, Consumer Trust and Consumer Choice Review Team Draft Report of
Recommendations for New gTLDs
Open : 7 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 27 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
ICANN's Draft FY18 Operating Plan and Budget, and Five-Year Operating Plan
Update
8 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
28 Apr 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
GNSO Community Comment 2 (CC2) on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy
Development Process
Open : 22 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 1 May 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Draft 2016 African Domain Name System Market Study
Open : 11 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 5 May 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
Proposal for Ethiopic Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR)
Open : 23 Mar 2017 23:59 UTC
Close : 5 May 2017 23:59 UTC
Log in to follow
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><img moz-do-not-send="true" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png" style="width:46px;height:29px" height="29" width="46"></a></td>
<td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:#41424e;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" style="color:#4453ea" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</blockquote>
<pre class="m_8223181833054313851moz-signature" cols="72">--
------------
Matthew Shears
Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:+44%207712%20472987" value="+447712472987" target="_blank">+ 44 771 2472987</a></pre>
</blockquote>
</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><pre class="m_8223181833054313851moz-signature" cols="72">--
Matthew Shears
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com" target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:+44%207712%20472987" value="+447712472987" target="_blank">+447712472987</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_8223181833054313851moz-txt-link-freetext">Skype:mshears</a></pre>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body></html>