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EFF already started on a letter FYI, it's here:<br>
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Not sure if this will be merged with the ICA letter yet, but Phil is
reviewing it. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/2/17 6:22 am, Stephanie Perrin
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Certainly looks
interesting to me. I think we should weigh in, and this may
be a good way.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-02-19 09:13, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>Might this letter being drafted by the Internet Commerce
Association be something that the NCSG would like to sign on
in support of?<br>
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<div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] Why is ISOC's PIR
promoting a private global copyright censorship court for
domains?<br>
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<div>Local Time: 17 February 2017 11:25 AM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 17 February 2017 11:25<br>
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<div>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a><br>
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<div>To: Graham Cobb <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:g+isoc@cobb.uk.net"><g+isoc@cobb.uk.net></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a>
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href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org"><internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org></a><br>
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<div>Hello to members of ISOC's Internet Policy discussion
group.<br>
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<div> I am Counsel to the Internet Commerce Association (ICA).
Last week I posted a blog concerning the HDI proposal at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.internetcommerce.org/dna-unveils-hdi-with-copyright-udrp/">http://www.internetcommerce.org/dna-unveils-hdi-with-copyright-udrp/</a>
. ICA subsequently posted a statement of concern regarding
the Copyright ADRP which can be found at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.internetcommerce.org/ica-deeply-concerned-with-proposal-to-enable-domain-transfers-based-upon-copyright-claims/">http://www.internetcommerce.org/ica-deeply-concerned-with-proposal-to-enable-domain-transfers-based-upon-copyright-claims/</a>
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<div> This past week I have been attending the Intersessional
meeting of ICANN's Non-Contracted Party House (NCPH) in
Reykjavik, Iceland in my capacity as one of the GNSO
Councilors representing the Business Constituency (BC - and
noting that the BC has not taken any position on any
component of HDI and that this communication is being
undertaken in my ICA role and not on behalf of the BC).
During the meeting I engaged in conversations with many
other members of the NCPH who share substantial concerns
regarding the Copyright ADRP and its imminent implementation
by PIR.<br>
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<div> Those concerned NCPH delegates have asked me to draft a
letter that can be signed by individuals and organizations
requesting that PIR and ISOC undertake an open and
transparent dialogue with the broad Internet community
before making any final decision on whether and in what form
to implement the Copyright ADRP. We share the common belief
that PIR, as the registry operator affiliated with ISOC, has
a particular responsibility to engage in such a dialogue
before granting ISOC's implicit blessing to an unprecedented
dispute resolution procedure concerning copyright disputes.
That is particularly true given that the DNA developed the
HDI components without undertaking the broad outreach and
discussion beyond its membership that it had initially
indicated would be forthcoming.<br>
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<div> As I am uncertain of the propriety of circulating such a
draft communication on this list, I am requesting that
individuals and organizations that may have an interest in
joining such a communication contact me direct at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a> . When
the letter is final I will share it on this mailing list,
and in the interim I will likely have more to say on this
subject in my ICA Counsel capacity.<br>
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<div> Thank you for your attention.<br>
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<div> Regards, <br>
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<div> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal<br>
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<div> ________________________________________<br>
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<div> From: InternetPolicy [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org">internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]
on behalf of Graham Cobb [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:56 PM<br>
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<div> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
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<div> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] Why is ISOC's PIR
promoting a private global copyright censorship court for
domains?<br>
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<div> On 16/02/17 18:17, Livingood, Jason wrote:<br>
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<div> > On 2/16/17, 12:34 PM, "InternetPolicy on behalf of
Brandt Dainow" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.orgonbehalfofbrandt.dainow@gmail.com"><internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org
on behalf of brandt.dainow@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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<div> >> I am firmly convinced this is an example of
"mission creep" - the job of domain name management is to
manage allocation of, and disputes over,<br>
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<div> >> ownership of domain names. It is not the job of
domain name<br>
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<div> management to have any say in what those domain names
are used for.<br>
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<div> ><br>
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<div> > The alternative appears to be country-by-country
mandated domain name blocking<br>
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<div> > (happening increasingly in Europe), which many MSH
organizations have<br>
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<div> in the<br>
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<div> > past said risks balkanizing the Internet.<br>
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<div> I don't accept that that is the only alternative: in my
view it is just<br>
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<div> as unreasonable.<br>
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<div> However, even if that is the alternative, it is better
for many reasons:<br>
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<div> the effects are limited to the country concerned; the
process is<br>
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<div> governed by the laws of the people affected; blocking is
often<br>
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<div> ineffective; the cost of silencing a domain owner
worldwide are much higher.<br>
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