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<p>I would support both cyber and multistakeholder workshops. <br>
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<p>Cyber focus will be interesting as we will just have come out of
GCCS2017.</p>
<p>Multistakeholder could focus on working models at national and
regional levels - and how we promote them.</p>
<p>Matthew<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/01/2017 08:26, James Gannon
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support the cybersecurity idea, and might even drag myself
to Geneva if we get it on the agenda.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>William Drake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2017 7:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: IGF workshop proposals?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As the next IGF is in Geneva and will
likely draw a larger than usual participation by governments
(e.g. national mission people who do ITU, WTO, WIPO, etc.)
and intergovernmental organization staff/leaders that have
been consistently skeptical of if not openly hostile to
ICANN and multistakeholder cooperation, it might be worth
considering a proposal that speaks more to the geopolitical
‘big issues’ that are still on minds here in UN-land. For
example, I could imagine a very useful if properly structure
assessment of the comparative strengths and weaknesses of
multistakeholder vs multilateral institutions and under
which circumstances one would want to choose one vs. the
other or a blend. Alternatively, or as a subtheme of this,
a session on how and to what extent/effect governments are
able to participate in multistakeholder processes could be
helpful (a dominant belief remains that governments are
inappropriately marginalized in ICANN and more ‘adult
supervision’ is needed). Another juicy one might be
‘cybersecurity’, which the ITU and may governments have
construed as being entirely outside the realm of Internet
governance and therefore something the ITU can lay claim to;
SSAC-type issues could be highlighted to show that
multistakeholder solutions are an important part of the mix.
In contrast, deep dives on individual ICANN issues like RDS
are important to us but may be less likely to draw in the
folks who a) have no idea what such issues mean and why they
matter, and b) could use some exposure to the ‘alternative
facts’ they believe that might help broaden their
perspectives.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of course it doesn’t have to be
either/or, NCSG and its constituencies could propose several
workshops and see which the MAG accepts. We’ve had pretty
good luck thus far, at least I don’t recall a NCSG or NCUC
proposal ever being turned down, so more than one bite at
the apple is possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lastly, we might want to consider
something for Day 0 that is cast more directly in outreach
terms. In any event, my point is we might want to try to
leverage the location’s rather specific properties. And if
enough of us will be here, I could reserve a bar or resto to
do an NCUC party...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 23, 2017, at 19:13, Ayden
Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is a good topic, and one
which should happen, but I think we as the NCSG
should be pitching a workshop on a topic which falls
within ICANN's remit. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: IGF workshop
proposals?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Local Time: 23 January 2017
6:11 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">UTC Time: 23 January 2017 18:11<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: <a
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<p class="MsoNormal">May I suggest to work on
supporting national IGFs as the basic structure of
IGF. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Carlos Vera<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:08 PM,
Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be great to keep
up the momentum re: building privacy into
the Registration Directory Service. A workshop
which explores where the WHOIS protocol has
come from, what WHOIS is today, why it is
problematic from the perspective of privacy
(along with how it enables doxxing), and how
it is evolving – for better or for worse –
would, in my view, be extremely useful. That
said, if we don't have Stephanie on the ground
in Geneva to lead this conversation and to
offer evidence-informed rebuttals to the
perspectives other stakeholders bring to the
table, its effectiveness for us would be
diminished... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: IGF workshop
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<p class="MsoNormal">Local Time: 19 January
2017 1:32 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">UTC Time: 19 January 2017
13:32<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: <a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">NCSG has been organizing
workshops in Internet Governance Forum, IGF,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for a while now, and we
could do so again this year.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But if we want ICANN
funding for it we must apply soon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you have ideas for a
workshop and are willing to work to make it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">happen, please let me
know. As Special Budget Request deadline has<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">been moved to January 30
and we need time to consider proposals,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">please submit your
proposal by 23:59 UTC next Tuesday, Jan 24.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you have
less-than-complete proposal or even just a
vague idea,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">that's welcome, too, I
can try help turn that into complete
proposal,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">but in that case please
contact me as ASAP - the sooner the better.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tapani Tarvainen<o:p></o:p></p>
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Media Change & Innovation
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