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<p>Dear Stephanie</p>
<p>Thank you Stephanie for a very important question. <br>
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<p>My answer would be that we should try to use the meeting to
improve our understanding and relationship to other stakeholders.
As part of the new empowered community, it will not be any longer
good enough to work out compromises between stakeholders that
everybody is equally unhappy with, but we need to learn to move
from talk and be able to work and act together. This will require
a better understanding of each others needs and ability and the
identification and implementation of real win-win situations. That
goes further then just stating positions, it means to learn to
listen too. NPOC tried to organize a session in Hyderabad where
we would be able to listen to the perceptions and expectations of
other stakeholder groups of the Civil society stakeholders. The
event did not take place because of massive scheduling conflicts,
but we might try to do something similar again in Reykjavik.</p>
<p>Hope that helps and Thanks again for your thoughtful and well
placed question.</p>
<p>Yours</p>
<p>Klaus<br>
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Stephanie<br>
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<p dir="auto">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
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Skype: carlos.raulg<br>
Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br>
On 1 Dec 2016, at 2:00, Klaus Stoll wrote:</p>
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<p>Dear All</p>
<p>I wish we would spend as much time and energy on IG
policy making topics as we spend time on the merits of
various places around the world to host an ICANN
Intersessional meeting. Can we talk about what we need
to discuss t the meeting, the goals we want to achieve
and how to get there. When we do this, the place might
not be of such an importance.</p>
<p>Yours</p>
<p>Klaus</p>
<p>PS: Kuawi, Hawaii. Definitely!<br>
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I don't think it was clear at all that some
locations were said "almost in jest". What was made
clear, however, on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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the instruction to, "Please type [locations] into
the chat. No tongue in cheek suggestions, please,
because we can’t see or hear your tone when you're
typing that in." If that instruction was ignored and
our representatives on the call did instead suggest
cities not well suited to hosting a meeting such as
this one, I'm not sure who they thought they were
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<div>Subject: Re: NCPH Intersessional timing<br>
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<div>Local Time: 1 December 2016 12:24 AM<br>
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<div>In response to who made the suggestions for a
location for the CGPH <br>
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<div> Intersession, a review of the session Chat
transcript<br>
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<div> makes it clear that the names were tossed out
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<div> One gets a sense from the overall records of
the meeting, that Reykjavik <br>
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<div> The decision is supposed to be out on Friday,
Dec 2nd.<br>
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