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<p>Norbert Klein</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2016 9:31 PM, farzaneh badii
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you, Amr.
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<div>I agree that we did well and we got the recommendations
that are to the benefit of NCSG. One recommendation being that
the council is the GNSO body that takes part in the Empowered
Community. I hope this recommendation does not face problems
later. </div>
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<div>But we went through a difficult process of drafting which I
think taught us a couple of good lessons: We should not allow
a representative of one stakeholder group become the sole
chair of the group, in charge of drafting the document. The
report became a minority statement ( Ed did a great word count
analysis that proved it was biased) and we had to insist on
adoption of our changes to the doc (I would like to thank Matt
and you for many good edits to the doc). I also think that we
should not make too much compromise. Of course we need to
collaborate but when we see there is not much compromise on
the other side, we should insist on our position as much as
possible (not until it breaks, just enough) especially when we
are aligned with a majority position! At the moment I am
thinking we should draft a "Majority Statement" objecting to
how the report was drafted and how biased it was. :) </div>
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<div>I hope everyone at NCSG is happy with the recommendations.
I think they are very good and it's a big win for us if
implemented. And I think in general it's good for GNSO too.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 October 2016 at 11:57, Amr Elsadr
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org" target="_blank">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi again,<br>
<br>
Steve Metalitz of the Intellectual Property Constituency
(IPC) circulated a minority statement to the Bylaws DT list
that he asked to be forwarded to the GNSO Council on behalf
of the three Commercial Stakeholder Group (CSG)
constituencies. I’ve attached it to this email. It concerns
the DT’s majority view to grant Council the role of acting
on behalf the GNSO as a decisional participant in the EC.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don’t find anything in the minority statement
that adds to the arguments presented on behalf of the
minority group within the DT that wasn’t already included in
the DT’s final report. Speaking for myself, I believe the
CSG constituencies have been rather unhelpful on this topic
while working on the DT. Instead of focusing on the mandate
of the DT, they took the opportunity to raise points that
are likely more relevant to their ongoing desire to
restructure the GNSO, and do away with the bicameral House
structure it uses. I also believe the DT, over the past
seven weeks, has wasted precious time negotiating edits to
the report in order to prevent overrepresentation of the
minority view compared to the overall DT consensus. This
was, at times, frustrating, but I’m not unhappy with the
final result.<br>
<br>
The DT’s report, recommendations and minority statement will
be discussed during today’s Council call. There is a
placeholder motion to adopt the DT’s work, but given the
timing of the DT’s conclusion of its work, I believe this
motion should and will be deferred.<br>
<br>
If you’d like to listen in on the Council call, you should
be able to do so using a live audio stream here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://stream.icann.org:8000/stream01.m3u"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://stream.icann.org:8000/<wbr>stream01.m3u</a>.
It begins in about an hour at UTC 12:00.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Amr<br>
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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Amr Elsadr <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I’m forwarding the final report and recommendations of
the GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team (DT), which are
attached to this email. This drafting team was created by a
Council resolution during the Council meeting on June 30th
in Helsinki (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/agenda-council-30jun16-en.htm"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/en/<wbr>meetings/agenda-council-<wbr>30jun16-en.htm</a>),
and was tasked with developing recommendations to implement
the GNSO’s new roles and obligations under the ICANN bylaws,
which were revised as a result of the recommendations coming
out of the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing
ICANN’s Accountability (CCWG-ACCT). The DT came up with
recommendations that should lead to amendments in the GNSO’s
operating procedures.<br>
><br>
> A summary of the recommendations can be found beginning
on the first page of the DT’s final report, but a more
detailed version of the recommendations can be reviewed in a
separate document (also attached to this email), which
tabulates the relevant new bylaws matching each one of them
to new rights/obligations of the GNSO, the need for new
operating procedures, as well as the DT recommendation
relevant to each of the respective bylaws.<br>
><br>
> The DT’s final report itself, apart from a summary of
the recommendations, describes the consensus levels among
the DT members for each of the recommendations, as well as a
summary of the discussion that the DT members engaged in in
order to come up with the recommendations.<br>
><br>
> The NCSG had three members appointed to this DT;
Farzaneh Badii, Matthew Shears and myself. We also had
Edward Morris working with us on the DT having been
appointed to it by the Non-Contracted Parties House (NCPH)
NomCom Appointee (NCA). As far as I am concerned, it was a
great team. We worked well together, and got the
recommendations we wanted in having the GNSO Council making
decisions on behalf of the GNSO as a decisional participant
of the Empowered Community (EC). We also pretty much got all
the voting thresholds we wanted on Council, and I would be
happy to answers any questions on those, as I am sure Farzi,
Matt and Ed would be as well.<br>
><br>
> Most noteworthy among the recommendations is the fact
that inspection rights will become available to individual
GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies, with no action
being required by the GNSO Council at all. This is a huge
win for us, and full credit needs to go to the NCSG members
who worked on getting us these rights while working
tirelessly on the CCWG-ACCT.<br>
><br>
> There is already a placeholder motion that was
submitted for the GNSO Council to adopt the report and
recommendations of the DT, but I expect this motion to be
deferred. The DT only sent its report to the Council today,
and the Council’s next conference call will take place
tomorrow. When the time comes, I advise our Councillors to
vote in favor of adopting the DT’s report and
recommendations. And like I said above, I’d be happy to
answer any questions on this.<br>
><br>
> Would be great to also hear from Farzi, Matt and Ed on
this topic. Having been involved in the CCWG-ACCT, they’ve
been working on this far longer than I have.<br>
><br>
> Thanks.<br>
><br>
> Amr<br>
><br>
>> Begin forwarded message:<br>
>><br>
>> From: Steve DelBianco <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Reports from the GNSO
Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team<br>
>> Date: October 12, 2016 at 3:56:23 PM GMT+3<br>
>> To: Julie Hedlund <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>,
Marika Konings <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>> [ICANN Staff — please send this to GNSO Councilors]<br>
>><br>
>> Dear GNSO Councilors,<br>
>><br>
>> Please see the attached Bylaws Implementation
Drafting Team Report and implementation plan, plus the cover
note below from Steve DelBianco, Drafting Team Chair.<br>
>><br>
>> Kind regards,<br>
>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<br>
>><br>
>> Note from Steve DelBianco:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear GNSO Councilors,<br>
>><br>
>> As you may recall, the Bylaws Drafting Team (DT)
was created to provide the GNSO Council with a draft
implementation plan for any necessary updates to the GNSO
Operating Procedures, or possibly the Bylaws as they relate
to the GNSO, arising as a result of the revised ICANN
Bylaws. The Council requested that this DT submit the
proposed implementation plan by 30 September (see <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20160630-2[gnso.icann.org]"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/<wbr>council/resolutions#20160630-<wbr>2[gnso.icann.org]</a>
for the full Council resolution).<br>
>><br>
>> At the GNSO Council meeting on 29 September, I
requested an additional two weeks to complete the report due
to the complexity of the task as well as the short time
frame. Thank you for allowing the DT the additional two
weeks to complete this very important task.<br>
>><br>
>> Please see the attached final report and
implementation plan from the DT for GNSO Council
consideration on at its meeting on 13 October. As noted
previously, this implementation plan for the Council is not
intended to include specific language for new or amended
rules and procedures. Drafting of these new or amended
processes will therefore likely begin only after approval of
the implementation plan. The understanding is that the
initial task of the DT was to identify and agree on how GNSO
should handle new obligations and rights arising from the
revised ICANN Bylaws.<br>
>><br>
>> I will be available during the GNSO Council call on
the 13th to address any questions you may have concerning
this implementation plan.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Steve DelBianco<br>
>><br>
> <GNSO Bylaws DT report [Final 12-Oct].docx><br>
> <GNSO Bylaws DT report [Final 12-Oct].pdf><br>
> <Bylaws & GNSO Procedures Map [FINAL
12-Oct].docx><br>
> <Bylaws & GNSO Procedures Map [FINAL
12-Oct].pdf><br>
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