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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Bill has said in more direct terms what
      I had suggested as a process strategy. <br>
      In the process of NCUC and NPOC reviewing (and possibly revising)
      their charters, part is to insure consistency with the NCSG
      charter.<br>
      As well there may be areas where the NCSG charter is inconsistent
      with elements of the intended remit of NCUC or NPOC. <br>
      In that case we "..then consider whether NCSG need tweaks..".<br>
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      Sam<br>
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      On 9/14/2016 4:18 AM, William Drake wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">The resolution of any issues should be that the
        constituency bylaws are conformed with the NCSG charter.  For
        that to work the NCSG charter ought to be stable.  If we throw
        everything up in the air at the same time it’s going to be
        operationally a mess, so it’d be sensible to get the NCUC and
        NPOC work done first and then consider whether NCSG needs
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      <div class="">Bill</div>
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            <div class="">On Sep 14, 2016, at 00:27, Sam Lanfranco <<a
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              <div class="">Whether or not the NCSG charter needs
                updating depends in resolving some of the places where
                the NCSG charter and the NPOC (or NCUC) charters have
                issues, and the nature of how those issue are resolved.<br
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                I do not know if areas where the NCUC charter is
                inconsistent with the NCSG charter only require NCUC
                charter revisions, or if there are some inconsistencies
                that might require NCSG charter adjustments.<br class="">
                Where things go there will depend on what comes out of
                the dialogues around individual charter revisions.<br
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                Sam L.<br class="">
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                On 9/13/2016 6:10 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote<br
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                <blockquote type="cite" class="">Klaus wrote:<br
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                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">I think that the
                    charters of NCUC, NPOC and the NCSG are
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                  Both NCUC and NPOC charters are dependent on the NCSG
                  charter. One of the reasons we are updating the
                  (older) NCUC charter is that it was not consistent in
                  certain ways with the newer NCSG charter, and NCSG as
                  the umbrella group has to take precedence. I don't
                  know whether the same is true of NPOC.<br class="">
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                  But I see no special need to update the NCSG charter .<br
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                        William J. Drake<br class="">
                        International Fellow & Lecturer<br class="">
                          Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br
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                          University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">
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in an unjust state" -Confucius
 邦有道,贫且贱焉,耻也。邦无道,富且贵焉,耻也
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Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Lanfran@Yorku.ca">Lanfran@Yorku.ca</a>   Skype: slanfranco
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