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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Carlos and Paul,<br>
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I am just opening up discussion here. In response to Carlos'
question, individuals get 1 vote, small organizations get 2 votes,
and large organizations get 4 votes. Organizations cannot spread
their votes, they are all assigned to a single candidate when a
vote is placed. It does mean however that an individual can join
NCSG as an individual, and as the representative of an
organization. With quick look at the membership spreadsheet I was
able to identify at least two of our colleagues who have 5 votes
each. [<i>Note: the membership list includes some memberships that
should be deleted (through withdrawal, or demise of the
individual or the organization) but they cannot and did not vote
so no harm on that front</i>]. <a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o0n2H5xkTPmon8K8wbFg0dAZTouHWgkWjcyNsSs_YXw/edit#gid=0">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o0n2H5xkTPmon8K8wbFg0dAZTouHWgkWjcyNsSs_YXw/edit#gid=0</a>
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This is why we are working on an improved NCSG/NCUC/NPOC
membership management process at the moment. <br>
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In response to Paul's query, again it is just to put issues on the
table. Do the representatives of large organizations, with their 4
votes, poll their organizations to see how they should vote? I
don't know. Is it better for large organizations to have 4 votes,
or to recruit more members (hopefully engaged in NCSG work) to
carry more weight? Worth discussing. As it is, any organization
(or clique of individuals) could stage a "registration arms race"
as you put it. As comment around the election said, NCSG needs
more worker bees (Stephanie Perrin's term) and certainly doesn't
need registration arms race drones. Not taking a position here.
Just asking. <br>
<br>
Sam Lanfranco<br>
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On 9/7/2016 1:12 PM, Carlos Vera wrote:<br>
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voting rights mean:</div>
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initial;">2. More weight for some votes and some ponderation
factor?</span></div>
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initial;">3. Multiple chances to vote the same person or
organization with the same ballot?</span></div>
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<div><b>De: </b>Paul Rosenzweig</div>
<div><b>Enviado: </b>miércoles, 7 de septiembre de 2016
12:07</div>
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<div><b>Responder a: </b>Paul Rosenzweig</div>
<div><b>Asunto: </b>Re: Detailed election results</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I curious
Sam as to why you want to review. Full context, of
course, is that I’m part of a large organization. But if
you change the rules, I am quite certain I can get more
than 4 (many more than 4) individuals from the
organization to sign up. And that’s also true, I’m sure
of the other organizations, including some of those I
often disagree with. The 4N limit is kind of a cap on a
registration arms race …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Sam Lanfranco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Detailed election results<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>There was a maximum of 349 votes registered based on 247
ballots counted.<br>
That means that there were 102 “extra votes” from voters
with multiple voting rights.<br>
A third or more of the votes cast were based on extra voting
rights. <br>
<br>
I would hope that the issue of multiple voting rights is
also reviewed. <br>
As well, a pointer to where the rules for multiple voting
rights are listed, <br>
and how organizational size is determined, and monitored,
would be useful. <br>
That would assist the rest of us in developing an informed
opinion here.<br>
Is there a location on the ICANN or NCSG websites that
discloses who, <br>
representing what organizations, has multiple voting rights?
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<b>Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates):</b> 282<br>
<b>Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates):</b> 247<br>
<b>Voters Who Haven't Voted:</b> 76 <span
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