<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+100 if anyone doesn’t know Glen, she is fabulous and entirely impartial, full stop<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill <div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 24, 2016, at 23:44, avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" class="">avri@apc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">+1<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 24-Aug-16 17:07, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I strongly support James comment. We should avoid this discussion<br class="">up-front!<br class=""><br class="">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br class="">+506 8837 7176<br class="">Skype: carlos.raulg<br class="">Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br class="">On 24 Aug 2016, at 16:31, James Gannon wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Glen in the only person who has access to the votes, and I would<br class="">challenge anyone to even consider the possibility of her compromising<br class="">the integrity of the ballots and the election in general. I<br class="">personally don’t see this as a topic worth discussing.<br class=""><br class="">-James<br class=""><br class="">From: NCSG-Discuss<br class=""><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>><br class="">on behalf of Ayden Férdeline<br class=""><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a><<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" class="">mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>>><br class="">Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline<br class=""><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a><<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" class="">mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>>><br class="">Date: Wednesday 24 August 2016 at 21:23<br class="">To:<br class="">"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>"<br class=""><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>><br class="">Subject: Re: *Important* NCSG 2016 Annual Elections - Voting rules<br class=""><br class="">Hi Ron,<br class=""><br class="">Sorry for the confusion, but I do not have any kind of deep mistrust<br class="">for ICANN staff and did not intend for my remarks to be interpreted<br class="">in that manner.<br class=""><br class="">Scepticism of the process is okay, however as I said in an email to<br class="">this list yesterday, I consent to the legitimacy of the electoral<br class="">process, I am willing to bear the costs of electoral participation,<br class="">and I am fully prepared to use this to communicate my pleasure or<br class="">displeasure with the candidate(s) that are presented before me.<br class=""><br class="">Best wishes,<br class=""><br class="">Ayden<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class="">Subject: Re: *Important* NCSG 2016 Annual Elections - Voting rules<br class="">Local Time: August 24, 2016 9:00 PM<br class="">UTC Time: August 24, 2016 8:00 PM<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:rjw@itsmyinternet.org" class="">rjw@ITSMYINTERNET.ORG</a><<a href="mailto:rjw@ITSMYINTERNET.ORG" class="">mailto:rjw@ITSMYINTERNET.ORG</a>><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Yes, I agree there should be a mechanism in place that allows voters<br class="">to spoil their ballot paper, should they wish to do so. The number<br class="">of spoiled ballots should be recorded.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I would consider it improper for anyone, be they ICANN staff or a<br class="">member of our community, to contact a voter about the contents of<br class="">their ballot paper and to insinuate that they may have voted in an<br class="">improper manner. If indeed it is possible to determine the number of<br class="">'invalid' ballot papers before the election is over, and who has cast<br class="">a vote in such a manner, I am surprised this is the case.<br class=""><br class="">- Ayden<br class=""><br class="">hi Ayden,<br class=""><br class="">yes, with the mistrust that the NGSC has had for ICANN staff, it<br class="">seems that<br class="">trusting the election to a staff-run system would be considered<br class="">non-optimum.<br class=""><br class="">i would prefer that an independent outside voting organization that<br class="">would<br class="">keep the partial results of elections in progress secret from members<br class="">and<br class="">ICANN staff and only report the final results.<br class=""><br class="">while this is possible in the bylaws, our organization has no<br class="">independent<br class="">funds to contract for this outside work. but this option should be on<br class="">the table with the later discussion of voting procedures.<br class=""><br class="">-ron<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">---<br class="">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br class=""><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" class="">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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