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<div>I think this is a timely and pertinent topic, I support the questions that Milton has raised.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday 19 August 2016 at 18:57<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: A Few Take-Aways from Meet the Candidates Call re: Council Transparency and Coordination<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I would like to raise an issue that was completely avoided in our discussions yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Probably the biggest issue facing the whole ICANN environment right now is the IANA transition – the end of US Govt control of the DNS root zone, and the completion
of ICANN’s movement toward self-governance. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">My sense is that the overwhelming majority of us in this Stakeholder Group (NCSG) are in favor of the transition and the accountability reforms associated with
it. None of us thinks they are perfect, of course, but almost all of us believe that we are better off making those changes than sticking with the status quo.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There are a few exceptions. It is clear that the Heritage Foundation, one of our (eligible!) member organization, is working very hard in Washington to raise
obstacles to the transition. It appears to me that one of our Council members, Ed Morris, has aligned himself with the Heritage folks in opposing completion of the transition at this time, though I could be wrong about that. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think it is perfectly acceptable for there to be different views within the NCSG. However, it’s also critical for our members to know what they are voting for,
and to have that debate openly. To my mind, a Council member who actively works against the completion of the transition has a dramatically different vision of the nature of ICANN and its long term future than one who wants to move ahead with the accountability
reforms and IANA transition. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Therefore it’s critical for our members to know how all Councilors stand on this question.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So I’d like to see the candidates answer these questions;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Do you think that if the U.S. Congress blocks the transition in the next 6 weeks that it will be a disaster for the multistakeholder model of Internet
governance? Why or why not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Are you actively supporting the Heritage Foundation’s (and other rightwing groups’) efforts to mobilize Congressional Republicans to block the transition?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How do you think we as a SG should respond if the transition is blocked by the U.S. Congress?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I look forward to discussion of these questions by the candidates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dr. Milton L. Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Professor, School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NCSG-Discuss [<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 6:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> A Few Take-Aways from Meet the Candidates Call re: Council Transparency and Coordination<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yesterday’s call provided a useful opportunity for dialogue on the candidates’ views and priorities and also turned out to offer some folks a chance to start clearing the air, however uncomfortably, regarding issues that arose within our
Council contingent the last cycle. I’d like to suggest a couple take-aways in hopes that we can re-set that which needs to be and move forward on a firmer footing. Purely my own views, which I guess some folks will disagree with, in which case fine, let’s
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Differences of perspective among Councilors are fine but these should be openly shared in order to preserve trust. It might make sense for the interested parties to find some congenial space in which to privately work through past bits
of friction that arose re: e.g. Marrakech, the GNSO chair selection, and whatever else. It doesn’t make sense to leave misunderstandings unresolved and entrenched as it can impact on the effectiveness of the team effort going forward. Hyderabad obviously
offers F2F options, which are likely to be the most productive in coming to resolutions, but it might make sense not to wait entirely on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. It would be helpful if Councilors could be sure to attend the monthly NCSG calls and proactively share their thinking about upcoming Council meetings and votes with each other and the wider membership. In ancient times when I was on
Council we regarded these as fairly mandatory and tried to miss only exceptionally and with notification, but more recently participation seems to have be spottier at times (I believe the NCSG chair has attendance records?). Yes we’re all volunteers with
day jobs and travels so things can happen, but it shouldn’t be the case that people miss more than a couple per annual cycle.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. In parallel, it’d be good to have greater open discussion of pending votes and positions on the NCSG PC mail list. I’ve been on that list since we set it up in 2011 (first as a Councilor, then as an observer) and think it’s under-utilized
resource that should work in synch with our monthly calls and those of the Council. Of course, issues should not always be sorted purely on an internal PC basis; important policy choices at least should also be vetted on ncsg-discuss so the PC is well informed
by a feel for general member sentiment, even if it’s divided. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either way, between the monthly calls and the PC, we shouldn’t have cases where members of the team don’t know until they arrive at a Council meeting how their colleagues will vote, or what contacts and representations of the group’s shared
positions are being made to other stakeholder groups, etc. You can’t have a team effort if people are unaware of each others’ doings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. Part of the PC’s challenge has always been to ensure effective chairing, including tracking of progress on open projects, herding cats, etc. We’ve always appointed Councilors to chair but the results have been variable as people are
already maxed out. On yesterday’s call Ed made a suggestion that merits consideration: having a non-Council member as chair, and allocating one of the NCSG travel slots to this person so as to promote their continuous coordination of the process. It’d be
interesting to hear views on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5. After-meeting reporting to the membership of the issues and votes should be routinized. This doesn’t have involve demanding magnum opus treatments, a couple paragraphs one a month should be sufficient and doable. I’d suggested (below)
that the six Councilors could rotate the responsibility, as was briefly attempted in 2009-2010. Stephanie counter-proposed on the call that reporting be done by non-Councilors, in part as a way of on-boarding ‘new blood’ and helping to prepare folks to stand
for Council in a future election. This could work too, although it may involve some extra coordination to ensure every Councilors’ votes and views are reflected to taste. Worth a try…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we could do at least some of this, I think it’d increase our team’s solidarity and our general members’ understanding of what their representative are up to, what’s in play in the GNSO, and what the opportunities for engaging in working
groups and such are. It’d also make our votes in elections more well informed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:39, William Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Agreed. It is important for members to become more acquainted with our representatives and resumes are extremely helpful for that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sharing candidates’ resumes is not a bad idea. But I’d like to suggest we go beyond this. Two issue we might want to consider on tomorrow’s call:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When I joined Council in 2009, we discussed the need for better reporting to members as to what their reps were actually doing in Council. We launched an attempt to deal with this by having Councilors take turns doing brief reports about
Council meetings. Alas it didn’t get far, after a couple times the sense of urgency faded, people told themselves “well, members can always look at the Council archive to see what’s happening," and the effort drifted off. But of course it’s actually not easy
for a member to dive through the Council archive and try to reconstruct what’s happening, and it’s not so hard to compose a one or two paragraph summary of a monthly Council meeting indicating how our reps voted on which issues, especially if the workload
is rotated among six Councilors, making it just a few times per year each. So while it’s a bit uncomfortable suggesting work to be done by others, I’d like to put this idea back on the table ahead of our Meet the Candidates call tomorrow. It need not be
an one onerous thing, and after all we exist to participate in the GNSO, so surely we should be able to know how our reps are representing us in the GNSO. Especially when we’re being asked to vote them into ‘office’ (for incumbents) on the basis of past performance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">More generally, we have long debated the matter of coordination among Council reps. Unlike most if not all other parts of the GNSO, NCSG by charter doesn’t normally do ‘directed voting,’ where the members are bound to vote in conformity
with a rough consensus position. We have a charter provision to do this in exceptional cases, but I don’t recall it ever being invoked. We’ve always been content to operate on the notion that the Councilor does what s/he thinks is in the best interest of
civil society @ GNSO, and if members don’t approve of anyone’s action they can vote them out in the next cycle. But as that has not really happened, it’s sort of a meaningless check and balance. And this is not without consequence, as we’ve sometimes had
internal differences within our contingent that have arguably undermined our effectiveness and credibility in the eyes of the community and staff, and can even allow our various business stakeholder group counterparts to exploit the differences in order to
push through what they want in opposition to our common baseline views. So at a minimum, we need to do better somehow at team coordination and make sure all our Councilors know what each other is doing and why and so there’s no real time surprises, especially
during meetings with high stakes votes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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