<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Dear Rachel</p>
<p>You are asking a very very important question: After joining
NCSG, what's next? I think what is called for is a cross
constituency program that leads newcomers to get involved in
policy making. The business of the NCSG and the Constituencies is
policy making, having members is only a tool that allows us to do
so. Having people stuck on the membership stage harms us no end.
Newcomers are not immediately leadership candidates, they cut
their teeth in the working groups first, but with help they can
very quickly become so. As a immediate step we should publish list
of experienced members that make themselves available to
newcomers. The newcomers take their pick and approach them. I
think we have something like that already implemented, maybe it
needs to be strengthened.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great question</p>
<p>Klaus<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/3/2016 12:54 PM, Rachel Pollack
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAPyK5xg6PN9_bZF6uoL7bD8dTtKrsM8B7wr=e_mfOnxipjT0mg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Dear All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As a newcomer who has been subscribed to this list for less
than a month, I don't a strong opinion on the issue of +1's /
expression of support. But I have observed in my short time in
ICANN how knowledgable and dedicated Stephanie is, and I hope
that she will stay on as a councillor.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For the very, very new like me, the question is less how to
feel motivated to run for an elected position (which would be
way too early) than figuring out the best way and place to get
more involved. After joining NCSG, what's next?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Completely separate from the elections question, would it
be possible to have an overview of some of the GNSO and
cross-community working groups to get a sense of where
volunteers are most needed now? I checked the ICANN community
website and have seen lots of information, but it would be
helpful to know what the urgent areas are that could most
benefit from new members. Does such a resource already exist?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Feel free to respond to the list with ideas or to message
me directly with advice.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Rachel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:18 PM,
Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p><br>
</p>
<div>oops, left the list off this one....<br>
<br>
-------- Forwarded Message --------
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th>
<td>Re: +1's and support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
<td>Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:30:11 -0400</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
<td>Stephanie Perrin <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">To: </th>
<td>Amr Elsadr <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aelsadr@EGYPTIG.ORG"
target="_blank"><aelsadr@EGYPTIG.ORG></a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">+1 to what
Amr said</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Regarding
the issue of suppression of candidates, I think it
is a human reality that if someone is somewhat
less well-known but would like to participate
more, they may be deterred by strong showing of
support for more vocal or well-known candidates.
This favours incumbents. Also favours english
speakers who communicate extensively, IMHO.
However, other than a couple of people who have
contacted me off-list to agree, I don't think we
have any hard evidence</font></font> <font
size="+1">that it suppresses nominations.</font> <font
size="+1">Some people who some of us have tried to
persuade to run have declined because it is a lot of
hard work and they cannot fit it into their
schedule.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Cheers Stephanie</font><br>
</p>
<div>
<div class="h5"> <br>
<div>On 2016-08-03 11:32, Amr Elsadr wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Hi,
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On Aug 3, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Arsène Tungali <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank"><arsenebaguma@gmail.com></a> wrote:
An interesting debate that actually needs to be properly adressed.
A scenario:
A nomination was made for someone, then people started showing support (with +1s) until they realize there is another nomination that comes in and they now wonder how to cancel their first support given the new one is "more qualified and sounds the best" than the one they initially supported. If we only count +1s made for a candidate, we may get the wrong temperature of the room for so many reasons.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>I’ve never seen +1s to indicate who a person is going to vote for. It just shows that the person +1ing believes a candidate’s nomination is a good one.
I don’t usually endorse nominations unless I have something I want to say about the candidate, but I have on occasion endorsed the nominations of multiple candidates running against each other. When I do, it isn’t because I’m trying to mess up the temperature of the room, but rather to indicate that I believe that we have more than one worthy candidate. Who I finally vote for is private, and at that point, I would have to pick one over the other taking into account many factors including candidate statements, etc…
Thanks.
Amr
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>