<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I see several topics brought in this thread and I will restrict myself to comment few of them.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">First, I don't have a strong position about the "+1" as practice. However, maybe it is important to clarify the process which is indicated in the announcement <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Elections-2016" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Elections-2016</a>:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">- this period is for nomination only. it means that we are getting people to nominate oneself or being nominated to be candidate for the open position. Basically, the goal is to get candidates, as much as possible to provide choices.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">- after the nomination period ends, there will be time for the candidates who confirmed the nomination to make a written statement responding to several questions to indicate why they feel they are fit to the position. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">- then comes the proper voting period, where the members who checked-in (the process is still ongoing) will receive the vote ballot and can cast up to 3 selections for councillors , 1 selection for chair position. more explanation about those details will come in time</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">What many are doing now, it is just an expression of support for nomination which can be for various reasons. but this shouldn't prevent anyone from putting his/her name for the election. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">so basically, we are not voting now and as it is written in the announcement: "<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">The selection will </span><strong style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><em><span style="text-decoration:underline">not</span></em></strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"> occur through acclamation.</span>" People may show support for a <b>nomination </b>but definitely that is not a vote and can change their choice during the vote. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Candidates will make the statements by 16th August, and Tapani is going to organize an open conference call where members will have chance to interact candidates. I really encourage everyone to attend the latter or at least listen to the recording if they cannot. also reading carefully the candidates statements and making your mind. </div><div class="gmail_extra">Ask hard questions, more details, more clarifications, it is your right as member and voter to do so. The vote is secret so you can decide later what you think appropriate with all the elements you have.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We always try to encourage new folks to run for election. is accepting to be candidate easy? of course not. Sharing my experience here, for my first election, I didn't get a good score. is that good for the ego or do we accept that easily? you know probably the answer :) however, even that small number of votes for me gave a confidence that I can do better in future and kept being involved since then with the non-commercial. On other hand, we also have several examples of people being selected in their first election.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">so please don't be overwhelmed by the number of +1 and think about running for the election or encourage someone to do so. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-03 23:44 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Having served on
council now for two years, I think we should consider better
how we want to run these elections. DO people out there
really understand the work we do on council? How do we want
our council members to act? How do we want them to discuss
issues on our monthly policy calls? How collaborative should
the decision making be? How do we do succession planning and
mentoring? These are issues that are fundamentally important
in my view, and should be discussed during the campaign, not
relegated to nominee's statements.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with Niels and
Milton that if expressions of support are suppressing
candidates from coming forward, we need a rule against it. We
desperately need more people to run....there was only one
contested seat the last time I ran, when gender balance and
regional balance were taken into consideration. <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Best,</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div>On 2016-08-03 10:24, Carlos Raúl
Gutiérrez G. wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear Milton.
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I agree that this is a very fine procedural point, that should be
managed clearly by the people responsible for the process, from
the first mail on, so as to allow for others to consider
participating. Maybe it should even become a written rule of
internal netiquette.
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But in the meantime, coming from a Hyperdemocratic and
Hyper-freedom-of-expression rights country like Costa Rica (and
the re-election being a possibility for some incumbents) I done´t
see anything wrong in feeling the temperature of the room early on
as a way to recognise how hard some of them have worked in the
past. We might have chosen the wrong place to make this type of
comments, but space should be available for making them in the
list anyhow. Maybe just under a different heading, like “I don´t
like the re-election of incumbents” for example.
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Now, do we have an explicit rule as suggested by Niels and you?
How and where do we express our support for that rule? Should we
draw a redline and asked for a renewed call for the election
process with the new rule and forget the past? Lets be practical
and move forward ASAP.
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Best
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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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<a href="tel:%2B506%208837%207176" value="+50688377176" target="_blank">+506 8837 7176</a>
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On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:11, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I second Niels's views. I have refrained
from expressing any opinion about the nominations until the
nominations are closed and we are discussing candidate
statements. I have always done so.
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--MM
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Subject: +1's and support
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Dear all,
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Even though I think the regular display of +1's is a signal of
mutual support
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and camaraderie. I have the feeling that sometimes it is
drowning out other
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discussions about content on the list.
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May I also remind people that the voting happens later, so the
candidates
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need your support is even more then.
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I'm greatly looking forward to the statements of the
candidates.
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All the best,
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Niels
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