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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Niels,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t recall that being discussed, but I could be wrong. Are you saying that the PC acted inappropriately?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; ">Brett</span><span style="font-size:x-small; color: #004B8D; font-weight: bold; "></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Niels ten Oever [mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Schaefer, Brett; NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: +1's and support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Brett,<br>
<br>
On 08/03/2016 06:16 PM, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
> Niels,<br>
> <br>
> You seem to be taking this personally. Why?<br>
> <br>
<br>
You seem to mistake me being rigorous for taking things personal.<br>
<br>
> We had several meetings in Morocco where went through each of the 11<br>
> recommendations and people voiced their concerns and we tried to<br>
> reconcile a position. On some it was easy, others not so much. I<br>
> don't recall if you attended or not.<br>
><br>
<br>
I attended them, and there it was also discussed that the discussion on<br>
human rights should happen on the list, as well as the justification of<br>
the councillors, and not just in the PC meeting. This did not happen.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
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> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Brett<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Brett Schaefer Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International<br>
> Regulatory Affairs Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis<br>
> Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy The Heritage<br>
> Foundation 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20002 <br>
> 202-608-6097 heritage.org<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message----- From: Niels ten Oever<br>
> [<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org">mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016<br>
> 11:47 AM To: Schaefer, Brett; <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a> Subject:<br>
> Re: +1's and support<br>
> <br>
> On 08/03/2016 05:29 PM, Schaefer, Brett wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> I disagree. The NCSG had various views on a number of issues in<br>
>> the transition proposal. I actually though that the councilors did<br>
>> a credible job of representing the diversity of views in the NCSG<br>
>> by dividing their votes.<br>
>> <br>
> <br>
> Hi Brett,<br>
> <br>
> I probably have missed the discussion on human rights (and how it<br>
> relates to North Korea) on the NCSG-list, could you point me to it?<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Niels<br>
> <br>
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