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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks Brett. I
agree, and am considering it. We have a burnout issue that
needs to be discussed. I do not mean me, I mean generally
there is too much work being done by too few people.<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-08-03 11:29, Schaefer, Brett
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Niels,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
disagree. The NCSG had various views on a number of issues
in the transition proposal. I actually though that the
councilors did a credible job of representing the diversity
of views in the NCSG by dividing their votes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On
the issue of fresh blood, is this really a big problem?
David Cake is term limited. So that will be at least on new
person. If Stephanie is concerned about this issue, she
could just decide not to run and ensure that a new person
will fill her slot.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That
said, I think there is value in continuity and experience in
dealing with issues before the GNSO. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
NCSG-Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Niels ten Oever<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: +1's and support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to add that I think it would also
be very good if we would<br>
increase the accountability of our councillors and leadership
team.<br>
<br>
I was for instance very surprised, and quite shocked frankly,
when one<br>
of our own councillors, as the only one on the GNSO, came out
against<br>
the inclusion of a commitment to human rights in ICANNs
bylaws.<br>
<br>
I do not think this represented the opinion of the NCSG, or at
least<br>
such a decision was not agreed upon.<br>
<br>
NCSG has gained a lot of credibility, but it is also at risk
of losing<br>
it at times. Better accountability can help us to prevent that
from<br>
happening.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
<br>
On 08/03/2016 04:44 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
> Having served on council now for two years, I think we
should consider<br>
> better how we want to run these elections. DO people out
there really<br>
> understand the work we do on council? How do we want our
council<br>
> members to act? How do we want them to discuss issues on
our monthly<br>
> policy calls? How collaborative should the decision
making be? How do<br>
> we do succession planning and mentoring? These are issues
that are<br>
> fundamentally important in my view, and should be
discussed during the<br>
> campaign, not relegated to nominee's statements.<br>
> <br>
> I agree with Niels and Milton that if expressions of
support are<br>
> suppressing candidates from coming forward, we need a
rule against it. <br>
> We desperately need more people to run....there was only
one contested<br>
> seat the last time I ran, when gender balance and
regional balance were<br>
> taken into consideration.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Stephanie<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 2016-08-03 10:24, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:<br>
>> Dear Milton.<br>
>><br>
>> I agree that this is a very fine procedural point,
that should be<br>
>> managed clearly by the people responsible for the
process, from the<br>
>> first mail on, so as to allow for others to consider
participating.<br>
>> Maybe it should even become a written rule of
internal netiquette.<br>
>><br>
>> But in the meantime, coming from a Hyperdemocratic
and<br>
>> Hyper-freedom-of-expression rights country like Costa
Rica (and the<br>
>> re-election being a possibility for some incumbents)
I done´t see<br>
>> anything wrong in feeling the temperature of the room
early on as a<br>
>> way to recognise how hard some of them have worked in
the past. We<br>
>> might have chosen the wrong place to make this type
of comments, but<br>
>> space should be available for making them in the list
anyhow. Maybe<br>
>> just under a different heading, like “I don´t like
the re-election of<br>
>> incumbents” for example.<br>
>><br>
>> Now, do we have an explicit rule as suggested by
Niels and you? How<br>
>> and where do we express our support for that rule?
Should we draw a<br>
>> redline and asked for a renewed call for the election
process with the<br>
>> new rule and forget the past? Lets be practical and
move forward ASAP.<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
>> +506 8837 7176<br>
>> Skype: carlos.raulg<br>
>> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br>
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:11, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I second Niels's views. I have refrained from
expressing any opinion<br>
>>> about the nominations until the nominations are
closed and we are<br>
>>> discussing candidate statements. I have always
done so.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --MM<br>
>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
>>>> Niels ten Oever<br>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:30 AM<br>
>>>> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
>>>> Subject: +1's and support<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Even though I think the regular display of
+1's is a signal of<br>
>>>> mutual support<br>
>>>> and camaraderie. I have the feeling that
sometimes it is drowning<br>
>>>> out other<br>
>>>> discussions about content on the list.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> May I also remind people that the voting
happens later, so the<br>
>>>> candidates<br>
>>>> need your support is even more then.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm greatly looking forward to the statements
of the candidates.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> All the best,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Niels<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -- <br>
>>>> Niels ten Oever<br>
>>>> Head of Digital<br>
>>>><br>
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> <br>
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Niels ten Oever<br>
Head of Digital<br>
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