<div dir="ltr">I too have been thinking that endowment is the way to go!<div><br></div><div>rgds,</div><div><br></div><div>McTim</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sam Lanfranco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Earlier, when the sum was more modest I and others suggested that it
should be placed in an endowment for continuous use over time, and
not be treated as a one opportunity windfall. An endowment with a
charter, a terms-of-reference, and an independent funding committee
bound by the charter and terms of reference could produce good long
term results. There was not much support for the idea at that time.
Too many hands that want to dip into the pot now, that seems to be
the challenge. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:59 PM,
Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>
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<div>Regardless of what the auction fee might
have been, my point was more that we are now
sitting on a quarter of a billion dollars, and
I distinctly remember in Helsinki the GAC
floating the possibility of this money being
used to fund their independent secretariat.
That's certainly a very understandable
objective, from their perspective. </div>
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<div>I'm curious as to what the New gTLD Auction
Proceeds Drafting Team is up to, and how their
work differs from that of the Cross-Community
Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
Drafting Team (is it superseding the former?).
When I looked at the membership for the
former, I see there are 18 community members
and 16 staff on the working group. That seems
a little disproportionate to me. </div>
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<div>Given how much money is at stake, that
these proceeds are set to increase further
(with the auctions for .hotel, .inc, .mail.,
.llc etc), and how transformative these funds
could be if suitably allocated, I think we
should be highly involved in this process so
that its allocation is more community-driven.
I'm happy to put my hand up and to volunteer
here. I have no doubt that there's a piece of
the puzzle that I'm missing (is WG membership
restricted?), as I will be the first to admit
I am new to this community, so if I am
mistaken and these funds are in safe hands...
let me know. But if we are stretched and not
as involved in monitoring the progress of
these working groups as we may like to be,
please let me know how I can help. Thanks!</div>
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<div>- Ayden</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016
3:02 PM, James Gannon <span dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a></span>
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<div>Power Auctions gets 4% I believe.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>NCSG-Discuss
<<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To:
</span>Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday
29 July 2016 at 06:45<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>"
<<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
</span>Re: Update request on Auction
proceeds drafting team<br>
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<div>What are the costs
you're talking about?
Looking at <a href="https://links9.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/jAOjQGVrCV1bw6Aby?messageId=CzRzo0ZHvRMiBWE8l&rn=IyUTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI" target="_blank">
past auction proceeds</a>,
the auctioneer Power
Auctions LLC doesn't
appear to be taking a cut
of more than 0.25%. Which
would suggest ICANN is
getting at least $130
million here. I might be
mistaken, however! Happy
to be corrected if so.</div>
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<div>- Ayden</div>
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<div>On Fri, Jul 29,
2016 2:36 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a></span>
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<div dir="ltr">the
auctioneer gets a
chunk of that
135M, can't recall
the % tho, but
ICANN doesn't get
the full 135M.
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<div>On Fri, Jul
29, 2016 at 6:23
AM, Ayden
Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>The <a href="https://links7.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/T0OpEIvqWnraGDrCW?messageId=RlGMDDqfOu62wVLdf&rn=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI" target="_blank">
sale of .web</a>
has boosted
the auction
fund by
another US$135
million. There
has to be at
least $250
million in
there now, if
not more? It
would be great
to hear from
our colleagues
on the New
gTLD Auction
Proceeds
Drafting Team
as to where in
their work
plan they are
at. These
funds could be
truly
transformative
for different
stakeholder
groups and
projects if
suitably
allocated…</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
Ayden</div>
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<div>On Mon,
Jun 13, 2016
5:36 PM, James
Gannon <span dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Auction
reserve fund
stands at a
little over
100m USD as of
today.</div>
<div>Klaus and
Olivie are our
two reps from
NCSG.</div>
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<div>-jg</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From:
</span>Ayden
Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
</span>Monday
13 June 2016
at 15:26<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To:
</span>James
Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:
</span>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>"
<<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
</span>Re:
Update request
on Auction
proceeds
drafting team<br>
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<div><font>Hi
James,</font></div>
<div><font><br>
Thanks for
raising
awareness of
this. I am
very
interested in
the outcome of
this topic as
well, as I
understand
there is at
least $60m in
funds
currently on
hand from
auction
proceeds (a
figure
inevitably
going to
grow). I need
not mention
how
transformative
this could be
for different
stakeholder
groups and
projects if
suitably
allocated. Who
is
representing
the NCSG on
the drafting
team for this
exceptional
situation? </font></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font>Best
wishes,</font></div>
<div><font><br>
</font></div>
<div><font>Ayden</font></div>
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<div>On Mon,
Jun 13, 2016
3:07 PM, James
Gannon <span dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:james@CYBERINVASION.NET" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:james@CYBERINVASION.NET" target="_blank">james@CYBERINVASION.NET</a></span>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Hi
All,</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Can
our reps to
the Auction
Proceeds
drafting team
provide us
with an update
on the work of
the group?</div>
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</div>
<div>This is
critical work
and I want to
make sure we
are giving
sufficient
input into
this process.</div>
<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">-James</font></div>
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<div>Ayden
Férdeline</div>
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McTim<br>
“A name
indicates what
we seek. An
address
indicates where
it is. A route
indicates how we
get there.” Jon
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