<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Great !<br><br></div>Il prefer when its finished like this.<br><br></div>Warm regards to all.<br><br></div>-Olévé-$<br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-06-15 14:18 GMT+00:00 Arsène Tungali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Thanks Ayden,<br><br></div>I appreciate your kindness and willingness to see things move forward. Also thanks for having elaborated more on your intentions and comments. It is more clear to me.<br><br></div>Let's keep in touch,<br></div>A<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<b>Arsène Tungali</b>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: <a href="tel:%2B243%20993810967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors" target="_blank">ISOC IGF Ambassador</a><a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors" target="_blank"> </a><font face="monospace,monospace">- <br></font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" target="_blank">ICANN Fellow</a>.<i> </i><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html" target="_blank">The HuffingtonPost UK</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div><span lang="EN-GB"><font>Hi Arsène,</font></span></div><div><br></div><div>Of course
this can be flagged if that is the view of the community. I was speaking in my
personal capacity when I suggested it was not helpful to raise this issue in
our response to this consultation exercise – it is also why I noted that I will
be responding to this consultation individually, because I am aware that my
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to recognise everything we have gained along the way. The proposed changes to
the Fellowship programme go above and beyond what most would have reasonably asked
for. We now have something on the table that is goal-driven and merit-based. It
is also more inclusive, on every metric, than its predecessor.</div><div><br></div><div>It is my
view that we should thank ICANN staff for seeking to redesign the Fellowship
programme so to advance the goals of ICANN’s unique, participatory multistakeholder
approach to governance. Of course this is not a substitution for all the
advocacy and engagement work that ICANN staff do around the world, which will
and should continue, but it’s an excellent evolution.</div><div><br></div><div>The strongest
arguments we can make, in any consultation response we write, are those
supported by evidence. If we have mechanisms through which we can eliminate linguistic
hurdles, let’s make them known to ICANN staff. But machine translation is not there
yet. And how much would human translation / simultaneous interpretation into
seven languages cost? I haven’t priced it but I’m willing to guess it’s
expensive.</div><div><br></div><div>I’m sorry
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where credit is due.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Ayden</div><img style="border:0;width:0px;min-height:0px" src="https://app.mixmax.com/api/track/v2/k0QxPUCYaS2XPNce3/i02bj5SZulGblRmclZGQu5WYjlmI/i02bj5CbpFWbnBUYtV3ZhJWZuV2cyFmI/ISasF2ZuVHVgUmboO8cyFkI?sc=false" alt="" align="left" height="0" width="0">
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<div>It’s not that I disagree with you, Arsène – because I don’t, and I actually identified this as a barrier to participation in my earlier email – but I don’t think it is helpful to flag this obstacle if the NCSG responds to the consultation. My feeling is that this is a known hurdle which cannot easily be addressed until machine translation advances to a satisfactory standard. This is a painful reality because linguistic diversity is very important. But like it or not we are constrained by resources and so we need a common language. English has become the lingua franca of Internet policy; maybe it shouldn’t be, maybe that should be Portuguese or French another tongue, but it is. So in theory we could keep ICANN’s language services team very busy translating all the traffic on the fellowship mailing lists and Facebook groups, helping break down barriers to participation, but given ICANN’s website is barely translated into languages other than English, in practice I think we need to make better use of their time. I think it’s quite reasonable to expect that all public-facing documents are translated by ICANN into the seven official languages. Maybe more face-to-face sessions and working group calls should have simultaneous interpretation too. And I would like all sessions to have live captioning. But I respectfully submit that this is not a discussion for the renewed focus of the Fellowship programme.</div><div><br></div><div>- Ayden</div><div><div><div>
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Fellows shouldn't be expected to speak English to be selected because ICANN meetings work with all UN languages (though English is their working language). It is still indeed a barrier because the application form is in English and I remember having serious
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<div>Thanks for sharing this, Mamadou. Mama J has proposed some very sensible changes to the Fellowship programme here. I will review the supporting documents more closely over the coming weeks and respond to the consultation activity in my personal capacity,
but I would hope that this renewed mandate and focus of the Fellowship programme is something we as the NCSG are able to support. From a cursory glance at the documents, I'm glad to see that we now acknowledge that there are factors other than nationality
which contribute to inequality — so trying to bring voices in from women, indigenous people, the LGBT community, and those with disabilities is a push we need. I would also suggest that linguistic barriers remain in this proposal (I believe Fellows must speak
English to participate?), but that's a much harder obstacle to overcome and I certainly don't have any solutions. The proposed changes to the Fellowship programme will see it being more goal-driven and merit-based: it has my support.</div>
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