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<div><em class="scribe-marker" style="display: none;"></em>As is probably apparent, I have largely been off email for the past 10 days and am only just catching up on missed messages. So I apologise for the scattered and untimely response as I bring some order back to my overflowing inbox.</div><div><br></div><div>To add to James' comments, my understanding is that the NCSG Policy Committee tries to keep to the following schedule. I'm not sure it was formally adopted, but as a rough internal operating procedure, it does outline how positions are drafted, edited, reviewed, and ultimately either approved or rejected: <a href="http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/2015-December/003349.html">http://mailman.ipjustice.org/pipermail/pc-ncsg/2015-December/003349.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden</div><div>
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 2:30 AM, Shane Kerr <span dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:shane@TIME-TRAVELLERS.ORG" target="_blank">shane@TIME-TRAVELLERS.ORG</a></span>
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<p>All,</p><p><br></p><p>At 2016-06-07 14:07:25 +0200</p><p>Niels ten Oever <lists@DIGITALDISSIDENTS.ORG> wrote:</p><p><br></p><p>> On 06/03/2016 08:13 PM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:</p><p>> > I tried responding on the pad, but it will not save my comments.</p><p>> > </p><p>> > I don't have a hard objection to the NCSG responding to this</p><p>> > consultation – indeed, I believe we should be submitting responses</p><p>> > whenever we are given the opportunity – but the drafted response is not</p><p>> > one that I can support.</p><p><br></p><p>I think that I have a process question.</p><p><br></p><p>What is the NCSG way for getting approval to send an NCSG response? I</p><p>know how RIPE and the IETF and the NRO do such things, but I don't know</p><p>how the NCSG declares a decision.</p><p><br></p><p>For example, in RIPE it is the job of the working group chair to</p><p>declare consensus, and there is an oversight and appeals process</p><p>defined. In the IETF it is roughly similar, although the details are</p><p>vastly different. In the NRO, each of the heads of the RIRs must agree</p><p>to any statement made by the NRO.</p><p><br></p><p>I ask because I think that this seems to be an area where consensus</p><p>will be very hard to achieve.</p><p><br></p><p>--------</p><p><br></p><p>One possible way forward may be to have an NCSG “official response” -</p><p>which would be a sort of vague, watered-down response that a politician</p><p>would have. “We find this very important, blah blah blah.” Some members</p><p>of the NCSG could also make a “minority response” which goes further.</p><p>“We think that ICANN should do X, Y, and Z.”</p><p><br></p><p>Personally I am happy to add my support to the strongest position</p><p>possible against harassment, without regard to cultural or other</p><p>sensitivities.</p><p><br></p><p>Cheers,</p><p><br></p><p>--</p><p>Shane</p><p><br></p>
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</div><div><br></div><div class="mixmax_signature"><div>Ayden Férdeline</div><div><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+Férdeline+SOI" style="background-color: white;">Statement of Interest</a></div></div><img align="left" width="0" height="0" style="border:0; width:0px; height:0px;" src="https://app.mixmax.com/api/track/v2/peGI9bZrMaJKOzhBq/i02bj5SZulGblRmclZGQu5WYjlmI/gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI/?sc=false" alt="">
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