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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2016 9:42 AM, William Drake
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<div class="">I strongly disagree that a delay will not help
anyone. It will very much help the governments of China,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, et al to convince some of the vast
number of developing and transitional country governments that
have been on the fence that the whole multistakeholder
enterprise is just window dressing for US hegemony and that they
now must urgently explore every national and multilateral option
to strengthen their ‘cybersovereignty’ and insulation from the
dreaded GAFA etc. The transition fails, we will be dealing with
massive ripple effects across multiple issue spaces for years to
come. There are geopolitical reasons NCUC members have
advocated the US giving up its role since at least a decade ago
in the WSIS meetings. The hope was to 'remove the target' so
governments could maybe focus instead on ways to deal with real
issues that impact access to and use of the Internet. The
‘delay’ makes the target much much bigger, and if somehow the US
political process manages to make Il Donald the president, the
target will grow by orders of magnitude and fragmentation will
become an ever more relevant concern. I guess I shouldn’t
complain since I live in Geneva and might get to attend lots
more bitterly divided UN meetings etc, so can keep as busy as a
Beltway Bandit.</div>
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<div class="">Anyway, here’s the link to the letter from Rubio and
four other Republican senators saying that the US should retain
control until after the election. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="">On May 25, 2016, at 08:33, James Gannon <<a
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<div class="">I agree delay is not going to help anyone,
‘testing’ the plan will bring us nowhere as the very
powers that people have concerns over and wish to test
will likely not be used in any reasonable testing
period. We will likely not have to spill the board, file
community IRPs against ICANN or take recourse to the
California courts, and to insinuate otherwise is playing
to the people who like to hear the media spin reels
around the transition.<br class="">
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Our proposal is sound, is based in strong governance and
law, and is ready to be executed. We either believe in
the ability of the community to build design and execute
or we don’t. <br class="">
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I do.<br class="">
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-James<br class="">
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On 25/05/2016, 06:55, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Dorothy
K. Gordon" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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on behalf of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:director-general@aiti-kace.com.gh"
class="">director-general@AITI-KACE.COM.GH</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">There will always be
issues that can be used to avoid the transition. Delay
is really not going to help in this case. I believe
delay will kill this, and we will look back with
regret if it does not go forward now.<br class="">
best regards<br class="">
DG<br class="">
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From: "Ron Wickersham" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:11:00 AM<br class="">
Subject: Re: great opening statement by Brett<br
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i'm not convinced that going slow is any kind of
attempt to kill the<br class="">
transistion. i share the concerns Ed and Kathy have
enumerated, and<br class="">
am extremely uncomfortable with the important items
that were shuffled<br class="">
off into workstream 2 just to get these contentious
and very important<br class="">
issues off the table. dividing the work up is ok,
but get the whole<br class="">
work stream parts 1 and parts 2 and if need be parts 3
and 4 resolved<br class="">
before the actual transition.<br class="">
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as both a NCUC and NCSG member as well as a USA
citizen, i don't see<br class="">
how my representatives can approve a half-finished
plan where the<br class="">
stakeholders have not resolved important issues -- the
only thing<br class="">
the stakeholders have addressed is how to divide the
work into two<br class="">
streams and agreed on the first part only.<br class="">
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not every one who shares these same concerns is a USA
citizen, these<br class="">
concerns are not US centric at all. and with the
change in leadership <br class="">
of ICANN in the middle of the process affects the
continuity of the <br class="">
deliberations and adds additional uncertinty.<br
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i'm on the side of proceeding more slowly. a
finished good plan that<br class="">
is agreed (really a compromise) between all
stakeholders will stand on<br class="">
its own merit and will succeed.<br class="">
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by overloading with too many separate, sometimes
overlapping, groups<br class="">
makes it impossible for Non-commercial volunteers to
participate in<br class="">
all the important steps. still we can recognize if
the final plan<br class="">
is insufficient to address our valid interests, so we
have to see the<br class="">
end product to adequately judge our position.<br
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-ron<br class="">
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William J. Drake<br class="">
International Fellow & Lecturer<br class="">
Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br
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University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">
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<i class="">The Working Group on Internet Governance
- 10th Anniversary Reflections</i><br class="">
New book at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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