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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">During the NCPH Third Plenary Session at the <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/PMZYAw" style="color: purple;">2016 </a><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/PMZYAw" style="color: purple;">NCPH
Intersessional meeting</a> held last February, there was a discussion regarding GNSO review and reform that was co-chaired by Rudi Vansnick and Tony Holmes. An action item from the Intersessional meeting was the formation of a discussion group to discuss the
future of the GNSO within the NCPH. <o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">On Wednesday, 20 April 2016, a few of the NCPH delegates who attended the Intersessional meeting, met for an initial discussion regarding forming a GNSO Futures Discussion group. <o:p></o:p>The
recording for this call and future calls can be found on the newly created Wiki space: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/eEaAAw" style="color: purple;">https://community.icann.org/x/eEaAAw</a>.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">Wiki space: A new Wiki space has been created for this group is at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/ckaAAw" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">https://community.icann.org/x/ckaAAw</span></a>.
Please note that this space is still under formation and is intended to be used as a collaboration space. Your input is greatly appreciated to ensure this space is effective for community members within the NCPH. </font></p>
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<div><font face="Calibri">1. to identify <font color="#ff0000">3 key challenges facing ICANN, and 3 key challenges facing GNSO,</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri">2. r<o:p>evise a list of questions first shared during the Intersessional. These questions will help guide the discussion group moving forward and can be reviewed at, </o:p><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/5kiAAw" style="color: purple;">https://community.icann.org/x/5kiAAw</a> .</font></div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Kindly send your responses/feedback to Chantelle Doerksen, </span><a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" style="font-family: Calibri; color: purple;">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a><span style="font-family: Calibri;">, </span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">by
no later than </span><u style="font-family: Calibri;"><font color="#ff0000">6 </font><font color="#ff0000">MAY 2016 at 23:59 UTC</font></u><span style="font-family: Calibri;">. Chantelle will collect the responses, and work with Maryam Bakoshi, Rudi Vansnick,
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri"><u>The next call will be scheduled after May 6th 2016</u>. </font></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"><u>Attendance</u>: Amr Elsadr, Avri Doria, Denise Michel, Frazaneh Badiei, Greg Shatan, Marilyn Cade, Osvaldo Novoa, Philip Corwin, Rafik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick,
Susan Payne, Tapani Tarvainen, Tony Holmes | Apologies: Jimson Olufuye, Matthew Shears, Sam LanFranco | Staff: Chantelle Doerksen, Maryam Bakoshi<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"><u>mp3 link</u>: <a href="http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9az5qWXNwufQq-2FgsrahGsnco4cVo5xD6PqKgOGrqgOqsQYBb669qbpyQ8iYo18ciW4ZzWGqKQXy0-3D_AQQ4YouduT3PbsV0yQ5kmtHQuTXmZVzbP-2Fo4rQg94dqJxL-2Bo6k-2BHcS9aAlTeSBj-2F-2B1c9m4nI2j-2BEJV18Ngcu9EktbCOtZ8hgnHndJ0XFGvzOre350SSYUk8UzWxZA7S5On3ESW1oTRqru2E71xnNVOb0ERsws-2FfzcQzeTXWtSpJ-2FN9-2B-2BK7087lZyMpGj-2FQJUbJD21xDpPeAIHtOuVVSw6kpR9RieEz0L6kYk4nrw-2FsVIb5v-2Fm54zTFUMXQMJlxAZ6AXwF8YISx7mTmMhMyzZW4rkWFbizoN1fEKw6x-2FEb-2FujRZ8LNNy5bEa4s-2F-2FqO5XnkpQyfWfzAPgWxvcg8vEgeSj0K-2BKzLfSEcOIVnWrxUFQBLOEzlNBXfBlrViAxXf1XwMf-2FdE0RxGSHYV-2F4GVxKmKh5tcoiBDomfts458HBnf-2FLUkhUQ0nbaE4EQSQPW9SCY339c3yLkQX3XDLtT0tZzw29EwwnF4jpJkvvnEgiE2qmcptjwQDTsdEun9rCITJf" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">https://icann.box.com/shared/static/q26z33ghjtiro7fyzxavn5228w5jknk2.mp3</span></a> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"><u>AC Notes:</u><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">Wednesday, 20 April 2016, 14:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">New addition to the agenda: GNSO Council (between items 3 & 4)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">1. Introductions<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">2. Proposed Charter<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> a. determine a common set of issues for the House to present<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> b. Add a portion to outline next steps<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> c. Chantelle to collect input, <a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">3. Election of co-Chairs <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> a. rename co-chairs to "co-facilitators"<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> b. rename working group to "discussion group"<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">4. Discussion in Council - GNSO Reform<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">5. Review of earlier discussions during the Intercessional meeting in LA (PowerPoint presentation)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">6. Review of initial questions posed in LA<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> a. Chantelle to circulate questions to the list, to request Feedback <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> b. Rudi, Tony to compile feedback<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">PowerPoint presentation Link: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49357771/NCPH_Plenary3_Future%20of%20GNSO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1455211716000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49357771/NCPH_Plenary3_Future%20of%20GNSO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1455211716000&api=v2</a> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> a. Wiki space to be created on 20 April 2016, and sent to groups<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> - Called: Discussion Group, co-facilitators<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> b. draft agenda for next meeting<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> c. May 6th deadline for feedback; allows opportunity for others outside of this call to engage and join<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> d. Consider sending a notice to the Contracted Parties House, once next call occurs/items to discuss have been decided on<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> e. In Helsinki, TBD: schedule a meeting with Contracted Parties House (request needs to be sent sooner than later for ICANN meetings team to reserve a room.)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> f. Set milestones/action items leading towards a joint meeting in Helsinki<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> a. Next Call to be scheduled after May 6th deadline.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Welcome to the GNSO Futures Call on Wednesday, 20 April 2016 at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, I am connecting my audio just now<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Hi Osvaldo, welcome<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Philip Corwin:Good morning. I have a conflict in 30 minutes and shall need to drop off then.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Noted, thanks Phil.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Is this the charter under discussion: ?<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vakZcYa0cStGwaCAbGtcNSkO9ZBzE29CIeRtaXr34UA/edit?pref=2&pli=1" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vakZcYa0cStGwaCAbGtcNSkO9ZBzE29CIeRtaXr34UA/edit?pref=2&pli=1</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Would be happy to give a briefing on the Council's adoption of the GNSO Review Working Party's assessment of the review, if folks would find that helpful.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:is this a GNSO effort of a NCPH effort?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:... or a ...<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:i would maybe call it NCPH view on the GNSO future ?!<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Susan Payne IPC:apologies for being late<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Until I understand a bit more about what the common concerns we have with the current structure are, I will not agree or disagree. :)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick: good points Avri, illustrates the need of clarification from our side<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Susan Payne IPC:+1 to Avri - Good point re bolstering the house structure<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:sorry. audio was disconnected<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:+1 Tony : informal group<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:the idea was/is to start the debate and exchanges of ideas<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:+1 for Tony<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Does the term "Discussion Group" work?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:yes<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:do we need chairs, or are wee fine with two coordinators<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Yes -2 is better<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:I'm fine with either 1 or 2.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:discussion co-leaders?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:2 of whatever is fine.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:discussion group is fine. and discussion groups have discussion leaders.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Osvaldo Novoa:I am ok with either<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Or a working party, which is a common term for lightweight groups like this?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:How can anyone abuse a party?! :)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Amr, I cannot share my college experiences in the chat, but I can assure it can happen.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:fascilitator is a nice term too<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:See, e.g.,. "Animal House."<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:From a GNSO perspective, my impression is that the difference between WPs and WGs is that WPs are chartered by GNSO SGs as opposed to the GNSO Council.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Well..., except for the GNSO Review WP, which has no charter.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Good point, Susan. This group's formation is kind of an historical accident. Getting beyond that would be good -- adding different folks is part
of that.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Apologies if I'm a bit slow on catching up with any previous discussion. Just learned about this group a few hours ago.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:+1 Tony each chair should communicate this to their respective group<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:If we have a mandate to do that, we can do that within the IPC.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Susan Payne IPC:I'd be very happy for Tony and Rudi to carry this forward as the facilitators<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:If this was the 1960's to early1970's, we could call this a "rap group." By the 1980's, that term took on an entirely different meaning....<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Philip Corwin:Apologies but I must drop off now to join another call. I shall look to Denise to advise me of what tarnspires during second half.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Apologies..., what was the question?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Thanks Phil for joining. The mp3 and transcription will be sent when available.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:and this will be open archive so others not in the dg and perhaps not even in ncph can see the discussion. hope so.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:@Avri, that's a very good point. We can make these available as an open archive.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:+1 Avri & Chantelle<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:This presentation is also available on the Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49357771/NCPH_Plenary3_Future%20of%20GNSO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1455211716000&api=v2" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49357771/NCPH_Plenary3_Future%20of%20GNSO.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1455211716000&api=v2</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:@Chantelle: What is the URL for this group's wiki, please?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:@ Amr: sure, one moment<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:We do not have a wiki group yet; the NCPH Intersessional Wiki was..<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:https://<a href="http://community.icann.org/display/ncph/Intersessional+-+February+2016" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">community.icann.org/display/ncph/Intersessional+-+February+2016</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:I think these are good questions.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:seems like a good way to start, tony<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Chantelle.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:or Tont (nickname?)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Farzaneh Badiei:"big bang" approach ?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:should we create a Wiki space- do all agree ?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Tont Holmes:i hope not! Cant trust my typing that far<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Yes, Chantelle.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Thanks Greg<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:i agree, we should start having a wiki as it will allow everybody to have a look of what we are working on<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:apologies to be late.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Thanks Rudi. We'll create the space send and send the link later today or early tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Hi Marilyn, welcome<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Is there stuff from the ATRT we should bring in?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:And how might this interact with ATRT3?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:+1 @Chantelle re wiki<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:+1 Amr re using these questions as stepping off point and add more<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:thank you. We'll post mp3 and transcripts to the Wiki space, calling it a Discussion Group with Co-Facilitators<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:Let's not be only consumed with ATRT3, or Accountability, though.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:A key to handling anything from the GNSO Review final report would be to first perform some sort of critical appraisal of it as a group. This is very
common when taking the findings of any study (qualitative or quantitative) seriously. Just wanted to stress that point.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:That works<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:I would propose that we also edit this question on Issues to be first: 3 key challenges facing ICANN, then 3 key challenges facing GNSO?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:6th of May as a deadline<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Was trying to come off of mute. Agreed<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:I thought htat we were working on this House first, and then...<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:I support moving this to the second call.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:time and meeting space is very limited in Helsinki, I am told.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Meeting B format is meant to focus on policy work.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:+ Tony for Helsinki meeting<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:I suspect that there will be several groups disappointed for not being able to hold F2Fs in Helsinki.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:I am a little cautious, though, but perhaps also a doodle about who wil be attending and when arriving might be userul to see if Monday could have
an hour or so<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:Yes, Amr. I agree<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:@Amr - it would be great to see a strong focus on policy work; current GNSO schedule in Helsinki doesn't show that<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:many thanks to all of you for this meeting<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Susan Payne IPC:I'm happy with trying to meet with CPH in Hel;sinki, but if we can't we could try to open discussion by Adobe meetings and then have a really
substantive meeting in "Puerto Rico"<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Shall we send a Doodle Poll for the next call?<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Noted, thanks!<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:We should try to meet as a group in Helsinki if possible, as well...<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:@Denise: Fortunately, some of the heavier policy work is still in very early phases. May be a good time to "experiment" with the format of the B meeting
now, me thinks. :)<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Sounds good.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:@ Amr - early, heavy policy work can benefit from f2f<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Marilyn Cade:thanks to all<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Susan Payne IPC:thanks all<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:That's our signal to stop....<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Farzaneh Badiei:thank you<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Maryam and I will work together for next steps<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:Thank you Tony!<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Chantelle Doerksen:Thank you Rudi and Tony<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Avri Doria:bye all<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Rudi Vansnick:bye<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Farzaneh Badiei:bye<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Thank you for stimiulating all of us.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Osvaldo Novoa:Thank you and best regards,<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:Bye all!<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Denise Michel:Bye all<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"> Greg Shatan:We're off to a good start.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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