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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think Milton is exactly right. We have more than enough on our plate in this group respecting issues that are tied to IANA policy that affects us all. We don’t need to become a broader policy forum for things that are beyond our remit. Indeed, we just spent a huge amount of political capital making sure that these things were outside the scope of what ICANN is going to do … for good reason<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul Rosenzweig<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>O: +1 (202) 547-0660<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>M: +1 (202) 329-9650<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Link to my PGP Key</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Invitation to join the #Internet4All campaign<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Grace <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>As far as I know we have not endorsed anything as NCUC - but if we have, I was against it at the time. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>😉</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>My concern is that this seemingly innocuous issue sets a precedent and before you know it we get 20 requests per year to endorse campaigns and causes that are not related to our actual scope of policy making authority. Some of those issues might divide us, leading to long debates that detract from our ability to do the things we are supposed to do. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>I see potential for a huge time waste. It's not like we have too little to do<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>So: publicity among and endorsements by NCUC members, Yes. Formal endorsement by NCUC, No. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><br>Milton L Mueller <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Professor, School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 20, 2016, at 13:57, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@HOTMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Deserves support. Highly recommended. Has NCUC not previously supported non domain issues that are internet related? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rgds<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Grace<o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 13:48:21 -0400<br>From: <a href="mailto:douglaskarel@gmail.com">douglaskarel@GMAIL.COM</a><br>Subject: Re: Invitation to join the #Internet4All campaign<br>To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes , +1 and Definitely!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a good initiative worthy of our support!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Karel<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Agreed.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Robin<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>> On Apr 20, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. <<a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> @Milton +1<br>><br>><br>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>> +506 8837 7176<br>> Skype: carlos.raulg<br>> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br>> On 20 Apr 2016, at 10:42, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>><br>>> I agree, NCUC/NCSG are appropriate vehicles for publicizing these initiatives among civil society organizations/individuals, and many of its members may be interested in joining in, but #Internet4All does not seem to be a domain name policy issue and I think we had better stick to our basic mission.<br>>><br>>> --MM<br>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of<br>>>> James Gannon<br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 12:26 PM<br>>>> To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>>>> Subject: Re: Invitation to join the #Internet4All campaign<br>>>><br>>>> Just on this point I hope that as this seems to be an infrastructure related<br>>>> campaign.<br>>>><br>>>> Still reading about it at the moment but my gut reaction is that this may be<br>>>> more appropriate for individual NCUC members and organisations to<br>>>> endorse?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On 20/04/2016, 17:12, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."<br>>>> <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:crg@ISOC-CR.ORG">crg@ISOC-CR.ORG</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> Is ICANN (regional) staff participating in this activity? Could also be<br>>>>> part of the information we may need for a qualified opinion.<br>>>>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>