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<p>I get Your point, Sam, and all I am saying that this is internal division of work within the CCWP and asking how to better call the 'groups' inside of the CCWP - suggestions would be nice,</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zalnieriute, Monika; NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cc-humanrights-research] [cc-humanrights] CCWP-HR Research: Call for volunteers (reply by 8th April) + Call Update</font>
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<div>Monika,<br>
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I am just raising a question about process here. The ICANN Working Group process has a very specific formula for chartering and creation. Ad hoc groupings around issues (here human rights) are differentiated as Working Parties. All I am suggesting is that labels
be kept distinct so that there is not confusion among the ICANN crowd, and outside the ICANN crowd. How that is done for the parts of a Working Party should be in ways that also minimize confusion. As you well know in law, words in formal processes have precise
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-04-07 6:55 AM, Zalnieriute, Monika wrote:<br>
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<p>are You suggesting we cal the Research sub-group of the CCWP a sub-party?</p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cc-humanrights-research] [cc-humanrights] CCWP-HR Research: Call for volunteers (reply by 8th April) + Call Update</font>
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<p>I would say that the 'indivisibility' is a relative concept, just like human rights<img class="EmojiInsert" alt="😊" style="vertical-align:bottom" src="cid:part1.07090404.01020303@yorku.ca"></p>
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<div>All,<br>
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I hate to be the pedantic one here but as I understand this ccWP, it is a bottom up initiative among ICANN participants. It has no ICANN chartering process, etc. and hence carries the ad hoc Working Party (WP) label. It is not a formal ICANN Working Group (WG).
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I hope I am correct in asking that all communications use proper identifiers, and call it a Working Party, and not a group, or there may be unnecessary and troublesome confusion both inside ICANN and outside ICANN.<br>
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