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I think Sam is raising a really important point. There is so much
work going on it is getting confusing, eg. we already have the
privacy sub working group of the PDP on WHOIS. So I would recommend
using the term sub-party...sounds awful but avoids confusion.
Unless someone can think of something better that is not already in
use at ICANN. Subteam of the WP might also work...gives the lovely
acronym STWP, what is not to love about that?<br>
cheers steph<br>
PS not volunteering for anything, sorry, up to my eyeballs in work
on the WHO2. I feel it necessary to check the work of those
summarizing documents, so that is a lot of reading. <br>
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Monika,<br>
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I am just raising a question about process here. The ICANN Working
Group process has a very specific formula for chartering and
creation. Ad hoc groupings around issues (here human rights) are
differentiated as Working Parties. All I am suggesting is that
labels be kept distinct so that there is not confusion among the
ICANN crowd, and outside the ICANN crowd. How that is done for the
parts of a Working Party should be in ways that also minimize
confusion. As you well know in law, words in formal processes have
precise meanings. <br>
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<p>are You suggesting we cal the Research sub-group of the
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<div>All,<br>
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I hate to be the pedantic one here but as I
understand this ccWP, it is a bottom up initiative
among ICANN participants. It has no ICANN chartering
process, etc. and hence carries the ad hoc Working
Party (WP) label. It is not a formal ICANN Working
Group (WG). <br>
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I hope I am correct in asking that all
communications use proper identifiers, and call it a
Working Party, and not a group, or there may be
unnecessary and troublesome confusion both inside
ICANN and outside ICANN.<br>
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Sam Lanfranco, NPOC<br>
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