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Ayden,<br>
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The questions were only for NCSG reflection. As for what the WG has
done, for the most part that train has left the station when it
comes to the substance of my questions. <br>
For now, I am making no recommendations and no further requests. If
I am right, the problem with focusing on what a domain is not, does
not partition it into an adequate definition of what it is, and
this issue will come back to haunt implementation on its own. If I
am right, we are at least forewarned. If I am wrong, there is no
problem here.<br>
<br>
Sam<br>
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<div>Hi Sam,<br>
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Thanks for your message. May I clarify please - are
these questions you are posing to the NCSG, or to the
Geographic Regions Review Working Group? If it's the
latter, I'll find a way to incorporate them into our
consultation response — though I think the Working Group
would argue that they have already addressed them. They
are currently in the third stage of their work; in the
first phase back in 2009 they were asking about
definitions and current and future uses of the regions.
Should we be asking that they re-visit this topic? </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 4:55 PM,
Sam Lanfranco <span dir="ltr"> <a
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Ayden,<br>
<br>
Short comment: To be clear, the question of why we
need regions was not mean to open up a Yes/No
discussion, it was to address the HOW we get
there.<br>
WHAT is the issue: Goal of greater
geographic diversity and inclusiveness in ICANN
processes<br>
WHY is this an issue: ICANN is committed
to a multistakeholder model of engagement in
policy formation and implementation within its
remit<br>
HOW do we get there: (a) how should regions
be defined; (b) what are the entitlements of
regions; (c) what are the obligations of regions<br>
<br>
At the core of defining regions there are three
considerations: <br>
(1) For each member in each region does that
membership give that member an adequate and
equitable voice? (Are they in the right region?)<br>
(2) What entitlements flow from membership in
an ICANN region grouping? (How are they equitably
distributed among members?)<br>
(3) What obligations flow from membership in
an ICANN regional grouping? (How are they
equitably honored across members?)<br>
<br>
If I were retained as a strategic planning
consultant here I would work the group through
questions 1,2, & 3, and take the need for
regions as given. <br>
<br>
Sam L.<br>
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<div><small><i>Hi Sam et al,</i></small><small><i><br>
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</i></small><small><i>Thanks for
your interesting comments. I like
that you've started from the basic
question of why do we even have or
need regions. I've been thinking
about that this morning - I think
geographical boundaries and
ensuring diversity here </i></small><small><i>matters</i></small><small><i>,
but I struggle to understand </i></small><small><i>how
much</i></small><small><i> it
matters. As best I can tell, ICANN
established regions to ensure
'diversity' on the Board of
Directors, and from that the
regions have come to be seen as a
mechanism for ensuring population
diversity in ICANN activities. As
Milton noted there are other areas
where we can forge commonalities
(languages, economic grounds,
cultural factors) -- and probably
more effectively -- so should we
ask for a new regions framework
(rather than a geographic regions
framework)?</i></small></div>
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<div><small><i>There is now a </i></small><small><i><a
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draft</a></i></small><small><i>
of our statement on Google Docs.
For those who have read the first
draft, the only additions are
paragraphs 3, 4, 5, and 7. I think
paragraphs 5 and 7 could be a
little contentious. I'm not
precious about language; if anyone
would like to revise or reword it,
please do. This is just a draft.
Once I have some feedback from the
community on these points, I'll
look to strengthen the conclusion
of the statement in a third draft
by adding some 'asks'. Please feel
free to edit the document and to
add new bullet points or arguments
I may have missed.</i></small></div>
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<div><small><i>The deadline for
consultation responses on this
report is 24 April. I'd like to
get a 3rd draft ready by next
Tuesday (12 April) with a view to
submitting this to the Comments
Forum on 19 April.</i></small></div>
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<div><small><i>I welcome and look
forward to hearing your thoughts.</i></small></div>
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<div><small><i>Best wishes,</i></small></div>
<div><small><i><br>
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<div><small><i>Ayden</i></small></div>
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