<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Anriette,<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2016, at 21:15, Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" class="">anriette@apc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Bill, if the dynamic coalition idea was taken up it would not be<br class="">necessary to identify anyone specifically to talk to.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>If one is content to launch a self organizing DC and stop there, right. But that would leave a lot of elements of the initiative hanging.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">What would certainly take more time and what would need direct<br class="">conversation with the Secretariat would be how to establish links<br class="">between the NMI project data base, solutions map, and efforts to capture<br class="">best practice in IG, and the recent effort to coordinate capacity building.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Right, and we can’t know whether that would even make sense to think about much less initiate until we have the post-transition picture.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Probably this is not the right space to continue this discussion as it’s non-ICANN. I just wanted to say that the IGF question was not really being ignored in Madrid, it’s just a matter of sequencing.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bill</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">But again I think these linkages can be mostly self-organised by people<br class="">involved in the NMI, people in the IGF community and other interested<br class="">persons.<br class=""><br class="">Anriette<br class=""><br class="">On 01/03/2016 21:54, William Drake wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Anriette<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 1, 2016, at 19:13, Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" class="">anriette@apc.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">While the outcome of the meeting is not hostile to this, I don't feel it<br class="">took it seriously enough either.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Because a) there were other issues that really needed be sorted out that are antecedent to how NMI might interface with the IGF, b) NMI is not in a position to unilaterally define that relationship, and c) it’s not even clear who we’d enter into conversation with, as noted previously. Once we know about the post-inaugural situation we’d be in a better position to get into this, i.e. in Brussels.<br class=""><br class="">Best<br class=""><br class="">Bill<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jan 21, 2016, at 10:29, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">For example, NMI could have become a IGF Dynamic Coalition with particular attention to tracking and reporting on progress in implementing the NM principles, and then subsequently we see if the MAG / secretariat / DESA / whoever’s actually in a position at IGF to make decisions might progressively pull some “Roadmap” bits into IGF's “intersessional” work streams and website, such as Stephan’s “Solutions Map,” the CGI bit on national/regional MS, and any effort to provide a sort of clearing house portal that aggregates the various mapping initiatives and tools, e.g. GIPO. I don’t know if items like the funding platform would be viable in this context, but perhaps. Either way, I thought that if one tries to formally import any of these operational activities from the outside into the IGF structure from a full stop with no discussion it would be difficult, but if there was a DC that percolated the work and built broader buy in within the IGF community perh<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> aps some <br class="">bits could later migrate over time.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-- <br class="">-----------------------------------------<br class="">Anriette Esterhuysen<br class="">Executive Director<br class="">Association for Progressive Communications<br class=""><a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" class="">anriette@apc.org</a><br class="">www.apc.org<br class="">IM: ae_apc<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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