<div dir="ltr">All, <div>sorry for the typos in my previous email :) of course I meant ICANN <b>staff</b>, not stuff :) seems that my phone just got mad with autocorrect and I better to proofread emails before pressing the "send" button :) </div><div>Cheers</div><div>Tanya</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 February 2016 at 11:39, Tatiana Tropina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com" target="_blank">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>I do agree with Niels. We are supposed to be a "vocal" point on HR but without a broader engagement of the community and a proper and constructive communications with ICANN staff and ICANN board our "voices" will be marginalised. Many misunderstanding during the HR fights CCWG could have been avoided if there were a proper communication with the board (no, I am not a stupid optimist, this is reality, it took time to convince the board but we made it. We could have made it earlier if there were a proper engagement). </div><div>One of the priorities for addressing human rights issues in WS2 will be, in my opinion, to establish the constructive dialogue with the ICANN board/stuff as early as possible to avoid the last-minute fights and unhappy compromises. </div><div>Cheers</div><div>Tanya </div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 February 2016 at 11:17, Niels ten Oever <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">But we want someone in staff who is working on this, right? That is what<br>
the previous report of the CCWP HR was about [0]. This cannot and should<br>
not be done either ONLY by the board, ONLY by staff, or ONLY by the<br>
community.<br>
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Whereas we've been having success on board engagement (after the<br>
questions of last time), we will need to work more with staff,<br>
henceforth this question.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Niels<br>
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On 02/29/2016 04:39 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
> +1<br>
> this would be my worst nightmare....<br>
> Stephanie Perrin<br>
> On 2016-02-28 22:32, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
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>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> - Will there be dedicated ICANN staff working on the development of a<br>
>>> human<br>
>>> rights policy who could also function as a vocal point on human rights?<br>
>> Be careful with this. WE are supposed to be the vocal point on human<br>
>> rights, don't let that function be taken over by an ICANN staff person.<br>
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