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      All,<br>
      <br>
      In response to Bill’s question let me take a first whack at
      a short response with respect to only the DNS part of the resource
      flow out of
      developing to developed countries. This is separate from payments
      to ISPs, for
      websites, and for website applications. <o:p></o:p><br>
      <br>
      For each individual domain name owner the revenue flow goes
      to the registrar, part on to the registry, and part on to ICANN.
      While there
      are registrars in developing countries, limited information
      suggests that most
      registrations use developed country registrars and gTLDs owned by
      developed
      country registries. [<i>Many are also hosted on developed country
        web servers, an additional outflow</i>] There is some
      information at the recently released “<i><b>Phase
          One Registrant Survey on the Domain Name Landscape</b></i>”
      from ICANN at: <a
        href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-25-en"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-25-en">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-25-en</a></a>.
      <o:p></o:p><br>
      <br>
      So, a part of each and every annual domain name registration
      fee flows out of developing countries and goes to registrars and
      registries in
      developed countries. This outflow would diminish as more gTLDs are
      managed by
      developing country registries, as domain names are sold by more
      developing
      country registrars [<i>and as more websites are hosted locally</i>].
      <o:p></o:p><br>
      <br>
      Developing country registrars have been quite vocal at ICANN
      meetings about the fact that ICANN conditions imposed on registry
      contracts
      with registrars are particularly burdensome in a developing
      country context.
      For the most part such concerns have not been addressed. <br>
      <br>
      Sam L, Chair<br>
      NPOC Policy Committee<o:p></o:p><br>
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      <font color="#330099"><i>On 30/09/2015 9:48 AM, William Drake
          wrote:</i><i><br>
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      <font color="#330099"><i>Hi</i></font>
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      <div class=""><font color="#330099"><i>Since the board may ask
            otherwise, you might want to say exactly what is meant by
            "There is a net transference of resources taking place from
            the developing to the developed world in the DNS industry.”</i></font></div>
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          </i></font></div>
      <div class=""><font color="#330099"><i>Cheers</i></font></div>
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          </i></font></div>
      <div class=""><font color="#330099"><i>Bill</i></font></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
        <div>
          <blockquote type="cite" class="">
            <div class="">On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a></a>>
              wrote:</div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Hi everyone,</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">trying to summarize the topics
                  suggested until now, I tried to capture comments as
                  much as possible but maybe I missed things.</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">- <b class="">Public
                    Interest: </b></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><i class=""><b class="">"</b>Can
                    we ask the board how it is coming with its research
                    in the "global public interest". In the annual mtg
                    last where we asked the board about its
                    understanding of the global public interest, how it
                    determines, on what basis, etc.  At that time, the
                    board said it was just getting started on compiling
                    some research that it would share and had hired
                    Nora.  So it would be great if we could have an
                    update or further conversation on this concept, how
                    it is determined and applies, etc.<b class="">"</b></i></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><b class=""><br class="">
                  </b></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">there was several comments with
                  that regard indicating that a research is ongoing and
                  mostly done within ICANN, not looking outside . a
                  consultation process is planned<b class=""> </b>and
                  starting in Q4 to get community input and continue
                  till June 2016.</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">-<b class=""> Developing
                    countries:</b></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">starting with the Nielsen
                  report (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-25-en"
                    class="">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-25-en</a>)</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">"Nielsen's report confirms that
                  Latin America, Asia and Africa will likely be the
                  great drivers of new gTLD acceptance and use, while
                  most registries are still based in developed regions.
                  There is a net transference of resources taking place
                  from the developing to the developed world in the DNS
                  industry. The problems that developing regions face
                  have been extensively explained.  What is the
                  perception of the board? In the opinion of board
                  members, which concrete measures could be put in
                  place? Why not even suggestions from the JAS report
                  have been implemented yet? Would the board commit to a
                  clear plan to address the current imbalances before a
                  new round of applications is launched?"</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">there was also comment that we
                  can also ask the Global Domain Division (GDD) during a
                  GNSO session . Others mentioned: knowledge imbalance,
                  capacity building and remediation mechanisms of
                  imbalance in next rounds</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">about this issue, I would
                  remind people that we got lately 3 reports in relation
                  to that, it will be useful to go through them :</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">- regarding next rounds <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/new-gtld-subsequent-prelim-2015-08-31-en"
                    class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/new-gtld-subsequent-prelim-2015-08-31-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/new-gtld-subsequent-prelim-2015-08-31-en</a></a></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">- review on previous new gTLD
                  round: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/new-gtld-draft-review-2015-09-23-en"
                    class="">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/new-gtld-draft-review-2015-09-23-en</a></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">- assessment of new gTLD
                  program with regard to competition: <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/competitive-effects-assessment-2015-09-28-en"
                    class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/competitive-effects-assessment-2015-09-28-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/competitive-effects-assessment-2015-09-28-en</a></a></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">- <b class="">Human Rights</b></div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <p class="">"With the CCWP on HR we'll be publishing a
                    new report on ICANN and</p>
                  <p class="">human rights (comments still very welcome
                    until Wednesday 30 23:59</p>
                  <p class="">here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://is.gd/gItc5W" class=""><span class="">http://is.gd/gItc5W</span></a>
                    ). So perhaps we can ask ICANN about how</p>
                  <p class="">they envisage living up to article 4 of
                    the articles of incorporation</p>
                  <p class="">and whether there are concrete plans to do
                    or develop:</p>
                  <p class="">1. A human rights policy</p>
                  <p class="">2. A human rights impact assessment</p>
                  <p class="">3. A full corporate social responsibility
                    strategy</p>
                  <p class="">in order to live up to the existing
                    commitments. And whether they are</p>
                  <p class="">thinking of using the UN Guiding
                    Principles on Business and Human</p>
                  <p class="">Rights for this. And of course: what is
                    the timeline for this."</p>
                  <p class=""><br class="">
                  </p>
                  <p class="">I would like to add comment about
                    developing countries and new gTLD program issue,
                    there was a lot of work done by NCSG on that matter
                    within GNSO and we succeeded in 2010 to get a joint
                    working on new gTLD applicant support, with the
                    active participation of several NCSG members.<br
                      class="">
                  </p>
                   A report  was delivered with several recommendations
                  , some of them were  approved in 2011 by the board :<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  - timeline for the working group is here <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/inactive/2011/jas"
                    class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/inactive/2011/jas">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/inactive/2011/jas</a></a><br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  -  the report there <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/jas-final-report-2011-10-13-en"
                    class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/jas-final-report-2011-10-13-en</a><br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  - the  implementation is here <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support"
                    class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support">http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support</a></a>)</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">the result of the
                  implementation was satisfactory due partly that the
                  program was implemented quite late when the new gTLD
                  program itself was starting and there was no
                  significant outreach to get more applicants from
                  developing regions.</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">The same issue concerns having
                  more registrars from developing countries and there
                  was last year  a consultation launched by ICANN staff <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/prjctgdduro/Project+Roadmap%3A+Supporting+the+Domain+Name+Industry+in+Underserved+Regions"
                    class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/display/prjctgdduro/Project+Roadmap%3A+Supporting+the+Domain+Name+Industry+in+Underserved+Regions">https://community.icann.org/display/prjctgdduro/Project+Roadmap%3A+Supporting+the+Domain+Name+Industry+in+Underserved+Regions</a></a>
                  . </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">I would conclude about this
                   that we should leverage those existing initiatives to
                  go further and be effective.</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">going back to the topics
                  discussion, it still going on and we should tune and
                  refine the topics and their descriptions. other
                  suggestions are welcome too.</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">Best Regards,</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik Dammak</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">NCSG Chair</div>
              </div>
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              International Fellow & Lecturer<br class="">
                Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br class="">
                University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">
              Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, <br class="">
                ICANN, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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