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Thank you as well for this bit of sanity Milton. <br>
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There has to be a firm position held here that under no
circumstances will we accept a GAC voting participation in the
community mechanism unless they are relinquishing Board advisory
status. <br>
<br>
Thus, language should right away start to change to incorporate that
distinctive fact about this [G] particular AC. When proposing and
arguing vote attribution patterns in the mechanism, we need to
distinguish not only SOs and ACs, but SOs, ACs, and ACs with special
advisory status.<br>
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Folks this is where the battle is at. This is no time for bad
compromises. It is time for principled stand. Milton has got great
points. Spread them forcefully, and please be relentless in your
ability to stand firm. Use the equal footing principle to get a real
equal footing.<br>
<br>
We need to have every other stakeholders know that there is no way
that an AC or an SO with special status could have both it's special
status and participate in the community mechanism, just like when
you guys think that it is impossible to get the GAC to relinquish
it's advisory status. <br>
<br>
The best way in my opinion to do it is to to attack the special
status but I,ll let the people closer to this decide.<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/08/2015 8:54 AM, Schaefer, Brett
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for
highlighting this important issue. I think everyone knows
our position based on our submitted comment, but Paul and I
agree that the joint comment should strongly oppose
inclusion of the GAC as a voting participant in the
community mechanism if they wish to retain their privileged
advisory status.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Some ruminations on GAC in relation to
NCSG comments on the CCWG proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve been reviewing the transcripts of the
ICANN 53 (Buenos Aires) meeting in an attempt to understand
better the way the GAC will handle the dilemma it has been put
into by the community empowerment mechanism. You can see the
preliminary results of my ruminations here: <a
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href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/29/gac-as-first-among-equals-the-danger-in-the-accountability-plan/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/29/gac-as-first-among-equals-the-danger-in-the-accountability-plan/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/29/gac-as-first-among-equals-the-danger-in-the-accountability-plan/</a></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So much for “equal footing.” The GAC
repeatedly refers to itself as “first among equals” and they
revel in this privileged status.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But these facts need to be reflected in our
comments on the CCWG proposal. Ironically, these readings,
when considered in connection with an assessment of the impact
of GAC “advice” on ICANN’s policy process, might change my
prior opposition to including governments in the community
mechanism. If we give GAC equal status in the community
mechanism and TAKE AWAY their special advice status, we are
closer to “equal footing” than we are now. Indeed, it may be
that the privileged advisory power is more dangerous and
distortive of ‘equal footing’ than their participation in the
community mechanism would be. While many of us assume that
GAC’s “Advisory” status limits its power, in fact its
privileged channel to the board elevates governments above all
other stakeholders in the policy making process. If one
reviews the history of the new TLD program, for example, one
can see how GAC advice was repeatedly used to delay, hijack
and change the policy developed by the GNSO. So maybe Heritage
Foundation was right: force them to choose between privileged
advice or participation in the community mechanism. Or, maybe
we should actually PREFER their inclusion in the community
mechanism to continued special status of advice.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Two things to avoid like the plague: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">1)<span
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</span>Giving GAC BOTH privileged advisory status AND
participation in the community mechanism<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">2)<span
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</span>Giving GAC a similar privileged advisory status over
the community mechanism (e.g., GAC would not participate
directly but would “advise” the empowered community, which
would translate into an effective veto, delay or dilution of
the community’s powers).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well, it seems unlikely that the special
advisory power would be taken away. So if we don’t oppose
their inclusion in the community mechanism, there is a risk
that they will get both. Indeed, it seems highly likely to me
that many members of GAC will respond to the CCWG dilemma by
demanding option 1) or 2). Still not sure how to play this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Your thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Milton L. Mueller<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Professor, School of Public Policy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
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