<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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However, I do not care that there are 5 votes, that is a different<br>
issue. I personally preferred that each of the ACSO get 3 votes to<br>
split up anyway they wanted. I wanted to keep it small. What I care<br>
about is that in the application of powers, AC s and SOs should be on an<br>
equal footing. I know that not everone belives in the theory of equal<br>
footing. I am dedicated to it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1000<br><br></div><div>Thanks for stating very clearly what you are dedicated upon, i share such dedication as well and i hope others will develop such mindset.<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The 5 powers have nothing to do with gTLDs. One could ask why the GNSO<br>
should have a say on anything not to do with gTLDs. All things gTLD and<br>
only things gTLD are within their tightly defined mission. That is not,<br>
however, my issue. What I have an issue on is that in an system<br>
architecture that has a balance of different perspectives, these sorts<br>
of powers should be on an equal footing and that it is inappropriate for<br>
one group to look at another and say they are less important that us.<br>
Some argue that I carry this egalitarian ethic too far, but as far as I<br>
can tell, ICANN needs it in order to be able to do the right thing.<br>
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The argument that this decreases GNSO power is hard to understand. What<br>
power does the GNSO have now in the area of 5 powers? The only time we<br>
have power is when we all work together - we have seen that several<br>
times this year. The powers are about the community working together to<br>
overrule the board. The community cannot work together if one group<br>
deems other groups as less important than themselves.<br>
<br>
So as I say, good topic for discussion.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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On 12-Aug-15 07:50, William Drake wrote:<br>
> Really useful piece from Brenden, really working problem to fix.<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
><br>
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 3:25 AM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a><br>
</span><span>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Excellent analysis from Brenden on one key flaw in the CCWG<br>
>> Accountability's existing proposal - how the proposed SOAC "voting<br>
>> weights" empowers some parts of the ICANN community (ACs) while<br>
>> disempowering others (including the GNSO) as compared to the existing<br>
>> balance of power in ICANN's structure. So this is one gaping hole we<br>
>> need to fix in the draft proposal, which otherwise has recommended<br>
>> some significant improvements (like the Independent Review process<br>
>> and Reconsideration Request process).<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Robin<br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dr. Brenden Kuerbis of IGP has developed a very important analysis<br>
>>> of the CCWG’s proposed voting distribution model, which we need to<br>
>>> take into account when developing our comments.<br>
>>> Read it<br>
>>> here: <a href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/11/ccwg-community-mechanism-threatens-to-upset-icann-balance/#comment-40415" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/11/ccwg-community-mechanism-threatens-to-upset-icann-balance/#comment-40415</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Dr. Milton L. Mueller<br>
>>> Professor, School of Public Policy<br>
>>> Georgia Institute of Technology<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
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