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I am not an American. I understand the sentiment for opening up
jurisdictional options, but I think they should very very very much
be resisted. The best jurisdiction is the one <u>that enables
multi-stakeholderism</u> and <u>constrain internationalism</u>. <br>
<br>
*That* is the jurisdiction we should seek. Not the one that "moves
it out of the US". <br>
<br>
Anti-US sentiment and/or anti-unilateralism sentiment and/or
sympathetic sentiment for an emerging, friendlier, new
multi-governmental leadership on the global scale will be rbought to
bear on the jurisdictional issue, and thus will get lots of
traction. Many well-intentioned people are thus susceptible to find
sympathy in the jurisdictional issue but I think
internationalization is a threat equal to that of the internal
model. <br>
<br>
I have been far away from the talks you guys have delve into, but I
do not think there is a possible model of an inter-national<b>
jurisdiction</b> that does not imply or otherwise empower some
form of inter-governmental <b>foundation</b>. Multi-stakeholderim
and internationalism *are* mutually exclusive. All governments will
want to sow the seed of enhanced inter-governmental governance and
the fact that some countries have a good human rights record and are
good international citizens does not change the fact that
multi-stakeholderism is by definition distinct from
inter-nationalism. <br>
<br>
What I think may be lacking and what is probably causing problems in
the designing of the separability solution is the weakness of the
multi-stakeholder [democratic] foundation, and that is perhaps what
should be strengthened.<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-06-24 1:37 PM, Sam Lanfranco
wrote:<br>
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<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I would like to join the
voices that are expressing the opinion that we would should not
view positions on various aspects of the proposed post IANA
transition governance structures as reflecting positions by
governments with various track records with regard to openness,
privacy and security. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The
Internet is a disruptive technology in a number of areas, include
governance itself. <o:p></o:p> <br>
<br>
<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Seun Ojedeji’s comments
about the internationalization of ICANN underline that what we
mean by “internationalization” in terms of governance is similarly
in a disruptive state. The multilateral solutions of the post
World War II period have shown strengths, but also enough
weaknesses that they are deemed not an appropriate option here.
There is no “Emerald City” international governance template that
is the gold standard of multistakeholder governance. We are
building in disrupted territory here. <o:p></o:p><br>
<br>
The future for ICANN, however the IANA transition unfolds, will of
necessity be a work in process. Much of what is being worked on
now it to build in enough strengths to protect the IANA and ICANN
missions, and safeguards so that the governance work in progress,
beyond the transition, is not be driven in the wrong directions.<o:p></o:p><br>
<br>
Sam L.<o:p></o:p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-06-24 2:07 PM, Seun Ojedeji
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAD_dc6jJq8t0T55K5y_xAwU+Nqx=VFk_SLuDXesZXNQLWuiaSA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
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<div>
<div>Hi,<br>
<br>
</div>
Every-time i hear about need for internalisation of ICANN
through jurisdiction, it always makes me wonder a few
things:<br>
<br>
</div>
- How does internalisation of an organisation gets reflected
by its jurisdiction? <br>
<br>
- Isn't an organisation going to be in a country anyway? is
there any country without the ability to exercise its
sovereignty at any time i.e if there is less devils in the
details of some preferred countries now, what would prevent
more devils from emerging in those details after ICANN gets
moved over to that jurisdiction <br>
<br>
</div>
Regards<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
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