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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    One might wonder whether this kerfuffle might not be some
    inspiration for becoming a co-owner and co-oversight of PTI as
    opposed to remaining at ICANN's tender mercy.<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30-Apr-15 16:07, Milton L Mueller
      wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seun<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"
            size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Of
              course there are still uncertainties and there is still
              room for interpretation regarding what is happening
              between IETF and ICANN. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">However,
              there are several pieces of evidence working against your
              more benign interpretation.
              <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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                    Roman"">      
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            color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
              ICANN response to the RIR CRISP team proposal, which
              indicates that ICANN wants a sole-source contract in
              perpetuity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
              fact that the _<i><span style="font-style:italic">existing</span></i>_
              contract with NTIA commits ICANN to make a smooth
              transition to a new operator, and the _<i><span
                  style="font-style:italic">existing</span></i>_ MoU
              with IETF provides the IETF with the right to terminate
              the contract. Why would it be in breach of that contract
              to acknowledge these existing requirements? If it is in
              breach, why didn’t ICANN say it is willing to sign but is
              seeking the approval of the US Govt contracting officer?
              <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
              fact, already put forward as evidence in my earlier
              message, and which you did not address in this message,
              that the IETF believes</span></font><font color="#1f497d"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"></span></font><font
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                color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">that the
                  disputed statements are “already </span></font></span></font><font
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                color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">part of our
                  agreement with ICANN, and that we are merely
                  elaborating</span></font></span></font><font
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><font
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                </span></font></span></font><font color="#5b9bd5"
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                color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">details of
                  that existing agreement”</span></font></span></font><font
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">The fact
                  that this seems to be the first time ICANN has not
                  accepted the IETF’s supplemental agreement</span></font></span></font><font
            color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"
            size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If
              our only problem here is a technicality regarding the
              timing of the agreement, then that’s great. But even you
              have to admit that there could be more to it than that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
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                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                    NCSG-Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
                      </span></b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                    Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:23 PM<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Ominous update on the IANA
                    transition<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Prof,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">I read the mail before
                responding as well(as you know I am also on that list)
                and you are right that there is a concern which I also
                agree with. However, it's our interpretation of the
                concern that I think we disagree on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Below is the exact wording of
                the IAB chair:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">" ICANN has informed<br>
                us that they are unable to agree to that text right
                now.  ICANN told<br>
                us that, in their opinion, agreeing to that text now
                would possibly<br>
                put them in breach of their existing agreement with the
                NTIA. "<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">The use of the phrase "right
                now" is what I think makes the difference in our
                interpretation of the situation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">At ICANN 49, a question was
                raised during public forum whether the NTIA contract was
                weightier than the existing MoU; i.e if NTIA decide to
                assign IANA to another operator, can the respective
                communities(based on their current mou) insist that
                ICANN has meet up with their SLA and by so should
                continue to operate their function?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">There was no definite response
                to that question and I think that is what is happening
                in this current situation; if ICANN signs such SLA, that
                would indirectly imply double oversight body. The 
                specific section below is what buttresses my point:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">" It is possible in the future
                that the operation of the protocol<br>
                     parameters registries may be transitioned from
                ICANN to subsequent<br>
                     operator(s).  It is the preference of the IETF
                community that, as<br>
                     part of the NTIA transition, ICANN acknowledge that
                it will carry<br>
                     out the obligations established under C.7.3 and
                I.61 of the<br>
                     current IANA functions contract between ICANN and
                the NTIA<br>
                     [NTIA-Contract] to achieve a smooth transition to
                subsequent<br>
                     operator(s), should the need arise. "<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">So how can ICANN sign an
                agreement reflecting the statement above without
                actually either getting permission from NTIA OR having
                the current agreement with NTIA terminated. The
                requirements listed by IAB chair were developed in
                response to ICG request and that process is on-going, so
                I don't see why implementation should begin before
                NTIA's approval.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Overall, I think the important
                question has been asked on the IANA-plan list which is
                to know the actual text in the new SLA that ICANN can
                not agree to "at the moment". Until such information is
                made available, ordinary community member like me (and
                you?) would only be speculating. So my interpretation of
                the issue may be largely incorrect but it's based on the
                information currently available to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
                kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt">On 30 Apr 2015 17:36, "Milton
                  L Mueller" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seun:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
                        suggest that you read the letter from the IETF
                        people.
                      </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <pre><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black">It is our view that the substance of the statements above is already</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                        New";color:black">part of our agreement
                        with ICANN, and that we are merely elaborating</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
                        New";color:black">details of that existing
                        agreement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
                        could be wrong, but I don’t think IETF would be
                        publicizing this the way it is if it were not
                        concerned. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Given
                        the precedent established with CRISP, ICANN’s
                        refusal to accept an agreement that, in IETF’s
                        opinion, already existed, is troublesome to say
                        the least.
                      </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--MM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                      color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
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                              face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
                            face="Calibri" size="2"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                              NCSG-Discuss [mailto:<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                                target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                  Behalf Of </span></b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                              Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:55 AM<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                                target="_blank">
                                NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                              Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Ominous update on the
                              IANA transition</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                        face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks for this
                          share, I am not sure what was posted on the
                          IANA-plan list by the IAB chair implied that
                          ICANN is refusing IETF from moving it's
                          function if required.<br>
                          I understood his message to imply ICANN is
                          refusing to sign and  agreement of such
                          ability because they already have a commitment
                          on such with the NTIA.<br>
                          I am not a lawyer, but I think it makes a lot
                          of sense to activate such agreement at the
                          termination of the other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">A question to ask is
                          whether ICANN is committed to signing the SLA
                          once NTIA relinquishes it's current agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                    <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">sent from Google
                          nexus 4<br>
                          kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                          face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt">On 30 Apr 2015
                            14:27, "Milton L Mueller" <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu"
                              target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">                            
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear NCSG:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s now
                                  official: ICANN doesn’t even want to
                                  let the IETF have a choice of its IANA
                                  functions operator.
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Those of you
                                  who read my
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/"
                                    target="_blank">
                                    blog post on ICANN’s interactions
                                    with the numbers community</a> will
                                  already know that ICANN is refusing to
                                  accept the consensus of the numbers
                                  community by recognizing its
                                  contractual right to terminate its
                                  IANA functions operator agreement with
                                  ICANN. In that blog, I referred to
                                  second-hand reports that IETF was
                                  encountering similar problems with
                                  ICANN. Those reports are now public;
                                  the chairs of the IETF, IAB and IETF
                                  Administrative Oversight Committee
                                  have
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ianaplan/current/msg01680.html"
                                    target="_blank">
                                    sent a letter to their community</a>
                                  noting that ICANN is refusing to renew
                                  their supplemental service level
                                  agreement because it includes new
                                  provisions designed to facilitate
                                  change in IANA functions operators
                                  should IETF become dissatisfied with
                                  ICANN.
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">These are
                                  truly shocking moves, because in
                                  effect ICANN’s legal staff is telling
                                  both the numbers and the protocols
                                  communities that they will not accept
                                  the proposals for the IANA transition
                                  that they have developed as part of
                                  the IANA Stewardship Coordination
                                  Group (ICG) process. In both cases,
                                  the proposals were consensus proposals
                                  within the affected communities, and
                                  were approved by the ICG as complete
                                  and conformant to the NTIA criteria.
                                  Thus, ICANN is in effect usurping the
                                  entire process, setting itself (rather
                                  than ICG and NTIA) as the arbiter of
                                  what is an acceptable transition
                                  proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">The key point
                                  of conflict here seems to be the issue
                                  of whether ICANN will have a permanent
                                  monopoly on the provision of IANA
                                  functions, or whether each of the
                                  affected communities – names, numbers
                                  and protocols – will have the right to
                                  choose the operator of their global
                                  registries. Separability is explicitly
                                  recognized by the Cross community
                                  working group on Names as a principle
                                  to guide the transition, and was also
                                  listed as a requirement by the CRISP
                                  team. And the IETF has had an
                                  agreement with ICANN giving them
                                  separability since 2000 (<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2860"
                                    target="_blank">RFC 2860</a>).  Yet
                                  despite the wishes of the community,
                                  ICANN seems to insist on a monopoly
                                  and seems to be exploiting the
                                  transition process to get one.
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Of course, a
                                  severable contract for the IANA
                                  functions is the most effective and
                                  important form of accountability. If
                                  the users of IANA are locked in to a
                                  single provider, it is more difficult
                                  to keep the IANA responsive, efficient
                                  and accountable. Given the
                                  implications of these actions for the
                                  accountability CCWG, I hope someone on
                                  that list will forward this message to
                                  their list, if someone has not noted
                                  this event already.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Milton L
                                  Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Laura J. and
                                  L. Douglas Meredith Professor<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Syracuse
                                  University School of Information
                                  Studies<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/"
                                    target="_blank">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Internet
                                  Governance Project<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://internetgovernance.org/"
                                    target="_blank">http://internetgovernance.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
                                face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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