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On 2015-03-30 10:49, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thus,
the “corporate responsibility” model is off target. If
people outside the “walled city” of ICANN are asking how it
is performing in terms of corporate social responsibility
they are asking the wrong question. But frankly, I don’t
think many people are asking that. <big>I deal with lots of
people, including hundreds of students,</big> who are not
involved with ICANN and I have never heard that question
asked.
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You are lucky that I am not your student! I am actually busy
grappling with that question re ICANN....how do you define corporate
social responsibility, for an org like ICANN, without getting into
content. I believe that they cannot start refereeing content fights
and decisions, but I expect them to uphold human rights ...as Monika
has pointed out, the Ruggies would apply to them, the question is
what does it mean when you get specific? I think the policy on
WHOIS conflicts of law, just for starters, shows disrespect for
national law at a minimum, and I am wondering if I should describe
setting policy that forces registrars to question the application of
law as bad policy, illegal, or showing no corporate social
responsibility? Advice welcome...<br>
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Anyway, I think this is an essential question that we need to figure
out before we get further down the path towards determining a
framework for "the public interest". I would agree with the guy who
said that dot sucks is a shakedown, but there are plenty of examples
of that in the new gTLDs, so what. <br>
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Getting back to corporate social responsibility.....still drafting a
privacy policy for ICANN, which I justify by saying it is a basic
corporate social responsibility, regardless of the spurious
arguments about jurisdiction and choice of law which they always
raise in defence of doing nothing. As far as I can see, there are
a number of things that fall clearly on the "do it" side of that
not-so-bright line....and I argue that diving into which domains (or
should I say, choice of names) are nice and which are not nice, is
out of bounds. Enforcement of libel is also definitely not within
ICANN's job description. Where things get tough is some of those
recent initiatives where ICANN staff were busy helping track down
kiddie porn, without a Court order to do so. Some might call that
"corporate social responsibility", and however we may beat up Fadi
when he strays into areas outside of ICANN's jurisdiction, this one
is tough to turn away. <br>
Berard is a slick proponent for this thing, but he is wrong about
"sucks" not being a pejorative. Try walking into a bar late at
night and tell some drunk he sucks, see what happens. (Or check the
recent edition of OED 2010, which says:
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<p>An expression of derision, used esp. by children; often in phrs.
<i><span class="hi">sucks</span> to you; yah, boo, <span
class="hi">sucks</span></i>. 1913–. </p>
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<p><em><b>Listener</b></em> The council treated the urbane Mr Cook
to the politician's equivalent of ‘Yah, boo, <span class="hi">sucks</span>’
(1983).<br>
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<p>What he ought to be saying is that the word is creeping into
polite discourse. Different.</p>
<p>Thanks for the interesting debate on this<br>
Stephanie Perrin<br>
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