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Thanks Seun....I am betting insurance companies and the govt are
going to get you to connect your vehicle, wont be an option. I
realize this is somewhat outside the ambit of this group. I asked
the question at a security meeting in Singapore and got the "you
just dont get it lady" brush off...but a friend said later that
indeed there was a question (beyond the obvious security issues with
these networked objects) of how devices were going to be
addresssed. And it is certainly a human rights question if we
auction off the domains for networked devices to a monopoly provider
and prevent individuals from having any control, although as a
haggard old privacy advocate I can certainly attest to the truth of
what Timothy just posted. People on the whole are not able/eager to
assert control. <br>
So while I try to stay out of watching the new gTLD auctions, plate
already being overloaded, does anyone know if this is happening yet?<br>
cheers SP<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie, </p>
<p dir="ltr">Replying to your question (re: who owns domain of
your car), first I like to say there is practically no way your
Honda will be accessible by domain without the domain being
added in the first place so you will be making an informed
decision by adding the domain. However if there arise a
technology that hard-codes domain on your Honda, you will also
need to make decision to connect device on the network with an
IP address before the domain can be reachable publicly.<br>
So the question would be, how informed will users be by then. I
don't really think domain registration would be a big concern by
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<p dir="ltr">Cheers! </p>
<p dir="ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 Mar 2015 06:47, "Stephanie Perrin"
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am. I am curious to know whether domains are going to be
involved, and if so who will register them (i.e. will Steph's
Honda, and all the tattle tale devices in it be accessible on
a domain, and if so who owns the domain....Honda, my insurance
company, the device companies, the apps, or me???)<br>
SP<br>
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I do some work and research in this area, if someone reminds
me next week after Im back from the CWG F2F i can do up some
info on this for the group if anyone is interested?<br>
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On 27 Mar 2015, at 02:59, Sam Lanfranco <<a
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Stephanie,<br>
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This has been on the agenda and worried about for some
time. The "connected-car" is but one data source in the
Internet of Things (IoT). Everything written in this piece
will apply to your IoT stove, frig, children's coat,
garage door, furnace, light switch....you name it. One
approach is to say all data is privately owned and that
the data miners have to negotiate for what they have
access to within the privately owned data.<br>
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Sam L.<br>
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On 26/03/2015 4:59 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
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Folks interested in privacy may find this report on the
connected car interesting, if alarming. The report was
written by Philippa Lawson, a well known Canadian
privacy lawyer who was for several years heading up
CIPPIC in Ottawa. This privacy research was funded
under the Canadian Privacy Commissioner's grants and
contributions program. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://fipa.bc.ca/connected-car/"
target="_blank">https://fipa.bc.ca/connected-car/</a><br>
Stephanie Perrin<br>
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