<p dir="ltr">Hi Sam,</p>
<p dir="ltr">If I get you right, are you basically saying that the MIN is what will enable connectivity in future? I guess that would remove the purpose of RIRs/IETF since connectivity as we know it today is built on IP (Internet protocol) and it's address(numbers).</p>
<p dir="ltr">I think what we should worry about (which has noting to do with ICANN) is unauthorised transfer/access of data. That is happening already; an example is the Samsung smart TV that sends unauthorised voice recordings.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Ultimately, present/future internet users requires improve awareness/education about this great tool called "internet"</p>
<p dir="ltr">Getting ICANN to improve it's contribution to such effort could be a welcome idea</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!</p>
<p dir="ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 Mar 2015 13:55, "Sam Lanfranco" <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><big>You will not have to add a domain name
to your vehicle for it to be accessed. Your vehicle will have
an Internet identity independent of
anything you do. Mobil devices, e.g. cell phones, have unique
mobile
identification numbers (MIN), and so will your car. Vehicles
have in-car diagnostic
networks, and increasingly come with standard factory
installed features that use cell technology
to link to the Internet. The data privacy issues here are the
same as in other areas. Who owns the data? Who
has access to it? -and- What is it used for? <span> </span><span> </span></big><u></u><u></u></p>
Sam L<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><small>Replying to your question (re: who owns domain
of your car), first I like to say there is practically no way
your Honda will be accessible by domain without the domain
being added in the first place so you will be making an
informed decision by adding the domain. However if there arise
a technology that hard-codes domain on your Honda, you will
also need to make decision to connect device on the network
with an IP address before the domain can be reachable
publicly.<br>
So the question would be, how informed will users be by then.
I don't really think domain registration would be a big
concern by then.</small></p>
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<p dir="ltr"><small>Cheers! </small></p>
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<p dir="ltr"><small>sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</small></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><small>On 27 Mar 2015 06:47, "Stephanie
Perrin" <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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certainly am. I am curious to know whether domains are
going to be involved, and if so who will register them (i.e.
will Steph's Honda, and all the tattle tale devices in it be
accessible on a domain, and if so who owns the
domain....Honda, my insurance company, the device companies,
the apps, or me???)<br>
SP<br>
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On 2015-03-27 0:37, James Gannon wrote:<br>
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I do some work and research in this area, if someone
reminds me next week after Im back from the CWG F2F i can
do up some info on this for the group if anyone is
interested?<br>
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On 27 Mar 2015, at 02:59, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@YORKU.CA" target="_blank">lanfran@YORKU.CA</a>> wrote:<br>
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Stephanie,<br>
<br>
This has been on the agenda and worried about for some
time. The "connected-car" is but one data source in the
Internet of Things (IoT). Everything written in this
piece will apply to your IoT stove, frig, children's
coat, garage door, furnace, light switch....you name it.
One approach is to say all data is privately owned and
that the data miners have to negotiate for what they
have access to within the privately owned data.<br>
<br>
Sam L.<br>
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On 26/03/2015 4:59 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
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Folks interested in privacy may find this report on
the connected car interesting, if alarming. The
report was written by Philippa Lawson, a well known
Canadian privacy lawyer who was for several years
heading up CIPPIC in Ottawa. This privacy research
was funded under the Canadian Privacy Commissioner's
grants and contributions program. <a href="https://fipa.bc.ca/connected-car/" target="_blank">https://fipa.bc.ca/connected-car/</a><br>
Stephanie Perrin<br>
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