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Agreed, most everywhere. And I for one think of this group as mostly
this:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Of course, if we accepted that, this group
wouldn't have much to do - except defend the principle from those
(within as well as without) who want to use name assignment to
achieve other ends.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
The ICANN (y'all like "the ICANN"?) does this mostly to keep the
cash cow alive: restrictions will bring value. I will refer to
Litt's rule above to know where I stand on this.<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/03/2015 9:36 AM, Timothe Litt
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:55097F67.60509@acm.org" type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-Mar-15 08:39, Sam Lanfranco
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><small>On 18/03/2015 7:56 AM,
Timothe Litt wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:550967D8.1080002@acm.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><small>Doctor, doctor give me the news:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/15/icann_doctors/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/15/icann_doctors/</a>
Sigh.</small>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What I do not understand is why ICANN could
not see these problems coming from the start. There are
problems similar to .doctor for many of the other regulated
profession gTLDs, claims to the contrary. Even "legitimate
medical practitioners." is an ill-defined category covering a
wide range of human skills and different certification
practices around the globe. Here in Ontario we now have
standards for Chinese homeopathic practitioners. Some
practitioners qualify and others do not, using criteria that
include length of practice as well as formal training. Are
they "legitimate medical practitioners"? Yes! Do they qualify
for a .doctor domain name? ....ICANN....yea or nay?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The regulation of the use of words for
professional designations, and definition of scope of
practice, are problematic enough at the national level. Trying
to impose a global regulatory regime on a gTLD is in the final
analysis like trying to herd cats. My bets are that in the
long run ICANN will be reduced to a binary decision and simply
say no for some problematic gTLDs, and when it says yes, it
leaves the fights over domain name use to other jurisdictions.
This would not be an abdication of responsibility on the part
of ICANN. It would be a recognition that other than denying a
gTLD, the regulation of domain name use at this level is
beyond ICANN’s own abilities. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sam L.<br>
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As I keep saying, "it's just a name". How it gets misused -
trademark, fund-raising, consumer mis-identification - is the
registrant's concern. And if the registrant isn't suitably
concerned, courts of competent jurisdiction can instruct him - or
her registrar - or as a last resort, ICANN - to cease and desist.<br>
<br>
Of course these outcomes are foreseeable. Like any group
(including this one, but especially bureaucracies), good
intentions result in scope creep. Process, lots of rules, full
employment - and silly outcomes.<br>
<br>
You can see how this happened. Public health is a good thing.
Many people exploit this. For example those who substitute water
for drugs for profit. So can ICANN call itself a good global
citizen if it knowingly provides a means for the exploiters to
take advantage of people? And does nothing?<br>
<br>
Well, it wouldn't pass the "would your mother approve if this was
on the front page of the newspaper?" test.<br>
<br>
But it's a complicated problem, that governments have failed to
solve. So, is "doing something" better than "doing nothing"?
Shouldn't there be some minimal standard of decency?<br>
<br>
And the bureaucracy starts a process of incrementally refining
the "simple, obvious and wrong" solution...<br>
<br>
A little perspective:<br>
<br>
Many people in this group argue about domain name choice as a
human right, others worry about geographic names, or want special
protection for non-profit organizations, or trademarks. They're
all making the same fundamental mistake. They're forgetting that
a domain name is just a name. Of course, if we accepted that,
this group wouldn't have much to do - except defend the principle
from those (within as well as without) who want to use name
assignment to achieve other ends.<br>
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Which leads to the other truism: "the road to hell is paved with
good intentions". Like monetization of the DNS - an attempt to
rationally allocate names by using economics. Instead of "I was
here first" or "I deserve this one", we get "I can pay more."
Sounds great. In practice, not such a smart move. A whole
industry has been built on allocating names. It moves a lot of
money around, but how that improves the human condition is lost on
me. All I know is that as an individual, I sure liked the
original FCFS, minimal cost model better.<br>
<br>
But that ship has sailed. The bureaucrats will try to do the
'right' things. This group will try to steer them toward our
ideas of 'right' - when we can agree. But none of this will
provide clean water in Africa, sensible health-care in the US,
stop world violence, or unravel the physics behind our universe.
Or any of the other big challenges. Instead we pay $0.20 to
ICANN, and $5-$thousands to brokers -- to acquire and record
names. <br>
<br>
Domains are just names. Really. What's really important is what
you do with the services behind them.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
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This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,
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