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Let's say one critic waits out a brand owner's first few moves to
buy some of the obvious names with which they are afraid to be
criticized with (which is not something I would do right off the bat
if I was on of them, mind you, and even if i would be inclined to do
it I'd wait for the price to go way down), does anybody know if the
critics will be able to know the price he will end up paying <b>before</b>
he divulge to the .sucks team what is the string he covets?<br>
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For example, let's say McDonald.sucks is registered by the fast food
chain. Do you guys think that the critic will be able to buy
thatyellowandredclown.sucks for an eventually specified/advertised
price for various alphanumeric strings under .sucks or do you guys
think the .sucks strategic pricing will be able to look at his
string request and put forth a specific price for the string?<br>
<br>
Please forgive my ignorance of those domaining details.<br>
<br>
Nicolas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/03/2015 12:56 PM, Amr Elsadr
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<div>They’re spinning their sales to brand owners a bit. Making it
seem like this gTLD is (among other things) for them to use for
the purpose of dialogue with their disgruntled consumers. Would
be interesting if dotsucks was ever actually put to use in that
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<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Avri Doria <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033"> Hi,<br>
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I does sound like they are making money on defensive
registrations. I thought that was frowned upon.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16-Mar-15 12:32, Carlos A.
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<pre wrap="">Do we consider this type of scam when some (most?) of us defend absolute
freedom for creating new gTLDs?
--c.a.
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Subject: [ PFIR ] Extortion runs wild on .sucks gTLD
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:28:08 -0700
From: PFIR (People For Internet Responsibility) Announcement List
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Extortion runs wild on .sucks gTLD
".sucks" registrations begin soon--at up to $2,500 per domain
(Ars):
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/sucks-tld-to-accept-sunrise-registrations-soon-but-theyll-be-pricey/">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/sucks-tld-to-accept-sunrise-registrations-soon-but-theyll-be-pricey/</a>
The number of generic top-level domains (gTLDs) available for use has
climbed into the hundreds, and ".sucks" will soon be added to the
list. However, angry customers eager to get their hands on
brand-specific domains like "bestbuy.sucks" or "comcast.sucks"
shouldn't get their hopes up; according to MarketingLand, the domains
will cost far more than most consumers will want to pay. The pricing
situation around .sucks domain names is complicated. Companies with
registered trademarks will have to pay an astounding $2,499 to
register their trademarked names in .sucks. Registration of
non-trademarked names during the "sunrise" period (March 30 until June
1) before .sucks goes live will cost at least $199 per name, while the
standard registration fee after June 1 rises to $249 per name.
Companies are typically hyper-sensitive about brand usage, and
few will want their .sucks domains under someone else's control.
The .sucks pricing scheme has led to outrage from many quarters,
with MarketingLand's writeup quoting several industry figures who
use words like "extortion" and "predatory."
- - -
This is one of the best examples I know of demonstrating how the gTLD
expansion has turned into one giant extortion scheme for the
enrichment of "domainers" and the rest of the domain-industrial
complex -- and to the detriment of the Net at large. As far as the
overwhelmingly vast majority of new gTLDs is concerned, I've seen
nothing from them but spam and phishing attempts, and I block them
from my networks with zero sense of shame and without any obvious
detrimental effects here. Personally, I recommend that you do the
same.
--Lauren--
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